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  1. mailmandan

    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    Remission of sins is signified but not procured in water baptism. Luke 7:29 - When all the people and the tax collectors heard this, they justified God/acknowledged God's justice, (signified by) having been baptized with the baptism of John. 30 But the Pharisees and the lawyers rejected God's...
  2. mailmandan

    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    Is the CoC divided on this belief? I've had other folks who attend the CoC claim that is their belief, so I know what I am talking about. Maybe you are the exception? :contemplate:
  3. mailmandan

    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    Matthew 3:11 - As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. Was that natural H20 that John baptized people in? Do you understand the difference...
  4. mailmandan

    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    :Laughingoutloud: Saving faith trusts in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. Actions which follow are works. How is my faith dead when I have been made alive together with Christ, saved by grace through faith, not works, created in Christ Jesus unto/for good works. (Ephesians 2:5-10) After my...
  5. mailmandan

    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    Your ignorance of faith and works in the Bible stems from being spiritual discerned. (1 Corinthians 2:14) Just like the Jews in Romans 10:1-4, (difference in style but same in substance) you have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge, being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and seeking...
  6. mailmandan

    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    I see nothing in the statements that imply that we are saved by baptism. (Luke 8:12; John 1:12; 3:15,16,18,36; 5:24; 6:29,40,47; 11:25,26) If the Jews were genuine believers, then they would not have refused John's baptism, but John's baptism was for "in regard to/on the basis of" forgiveness of...
  7. mailmandan

    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    Neither Jesus nor John the Baptist taught that water baptism is the basis or means by which we obtain forgiveness of sins. The apostle Paul already took care of that. (Romans 3:24-28; 4:2-6; 11:6; Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9) Don't let Jesus' play on words here in response to the...
  8. mailmandan

    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    In your desperate effort to obtain salvation by works based on your personal definition of non-boastful works, you continue to cling to your works-based false gospel and stubbornly refuse to believe the gospel. Until you receive a new pair of bifocals you will remain in a state of confusion...
  9. mailmandan

    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    LOL! Keep dreaming. The clear concise answer to Sirs what must I do to be saved was Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved, you and your household (if they believe as well). Notice that Paul did not say Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and get baptized and you will be saved. So...
  10. mailmandan

    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    They were told to look at the snakes in faith for healing just as we look at the Son in faith (believing in Him) for salvation. So, now you are trying to turn looking into salvation by works? o_O You are so determined to boast in works for salvation! Looking takes a lot of hard work. :rolleyes...
  11. mailmandan

    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    Salvation by works is heresy (Romans 4:2-6; 11:6; Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9) and is no salvation at all. You confuse obedience that results in salvation with obedience that comes after salvation. Campbell soup theology. Faith results in action/works. Faith is faith and obedience...
  12. mailmandan

    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    Salvation through faith is not a system of works salvation. You are teaching a "different" gospel. (Galatians 1:6-9) What list of things did Paul say we are saved through in Ephesians 2:8? Paul said we are saved by grace (God's part) through faith (man's part). No works mentioned which would be...
  13. mailmandan

    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    John 6:40 - For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. But apparently, that is not good enough for you because the object of our belief (Jesus Christ/His death, burial and resurrection) is not...
  14. mailmandan

    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    You pinpointed your problem. Now you just need to fix it. Faith is the assurance of things hoped for (Hebrews 11:1) and works are works, whether works of the law, good works, works of righteousness, our works etc.. We are not saved by works of any kind. Period. (Galatians 2:16; Romans 4:2-6...
  15. mailmandan

    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    By or "out of" faith is what was meant. Not faith "is" in essence works. There is a distinction between faith and works. (Ephesians 2:8,9) Their works were a 'demonstration' of their faith but not their faith itself. It's right in front of your eyes Titus but are unable to see it. Another...
  16. mailmandan

    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    In my religion or is that what Paul said in Ephesians 2:8-10? Are we saved through faith FIRST then created in Christ Jesus unto good works or are we created in Christ Jesus unto good works BEFORE we are saved through faith? You are obsessed with works for salvation. Sure, it does. What...
  17. mailmandan

    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    You continue to confuse God's will for us to become saved (believe/faith - John 6:40) with God's will for us after we have been saved. (good works - Ephesians 2:10) Until the veil is lifted..
  18. mailmandan

    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    In Genesis 12, Abraham obeyed God by going out of his country to a place that God would show him, but that's not the end of the story and that is not salvation by works. It was not until Genesis 15:5-6 in which God brought Abraham outside and said, “Look now toward heaven, and count the stars if...
  19. mailmandan

    JUSTIFICATION: Before God or Before Man? Examining James chapter 2

    Abraham already exhibited SAVING faith in Genesis 15:6 when he believed the Lord and it (faith, not works) was accounted to him for righteousness. (Romans 4:2-3) When Abraham performed the good work in Genesis 22; he fulfilled the expectations created by the pronouncement of his faith in Genesis...
  20. mailmandan

    Trump didn't place hand on Bible

    You are right. It is the state of a person's heart that is more important. Did Obama and Biden place their hand on a Bible as they swore in? Did it make any difference for them? What kind of fruit did they bear while serving as President? (Matthew 7:17)