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Thanks for your input Truman, I was asked by an individual to show a scripture that shows Jesus was a spirit being prior to coming to earth, and I was not able to produce one that point blank stated it, he later agreed Jesus was not a human before coming to earth.

It is a combination sir. True faith is showed by action.

Yes sir, and it is that obedience to his teachings that save Bob. If one worships and serves Jehovah exclusively as Jesus stated at Mat 4:10, he certainly is in line for salvation.

I couldn't agree more Bob, seems simple doesn't it, yet a lot is required in that saying. In fact he said those two verses summed up the entire law.

The key is in who are the we sir. Jesus died for all, but he also pointed out it would be few who were on the road to life. Mat 7:14

Hi One, I think you have over complicated the answer to the question sir, the Bible records that Jesus came to the earth in the flesh, no one has debated that, however an individual inferred that Jesus was not a spirit being prior to coming to earth, which prompted me to take up this thread. He...

Ya, sure!

I appreciate that Robert, I certainly did misunderstand what you were trying to convey. It is interesting how minds think, and even though written word is exacting, without body language sometimes it is difficult to understand. I am glad we agree sir.

Amen to that Ron! Everyone who is reconciled to God is through Jesus and the ransom he provided sir. Of course to take advantage of that ransom, one must side with God on the issue by obeying His commandments 1 Jn 5:3. It is not automatic, and few choose to do so sir.

You are correct Keith, although God is the creator, and everything was created through Jesus' hands, with the exception of Jesus himself of course.

Even the demons believe Ferris, but that is not all that is required sir, obedience to the laws of the Christ are essential for salvation.

The spirits that were imprisoned was a restriction from God placed upon the demons. The original word used for that prison is tartarus(1 Peter 3:18-20) . . .He was put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit. 19 And in this state he went and preached to the spirits in prison, 20 who...

Perhaps you misunderstand me sir, maybe I complicated my answer. There is no such a thing as secure eternal salvation. All salvation is conditional. In order to be saved on has to do the will of God. Mat 7:21-23. That includes doing things Jehovah's way.

Mk 13:32: “Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father Do you believe Jesus when he said this Bob: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’” ?

So what does the Lord tell us to do?

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Great question, and I have good news, the Bible answers that. Out of God's great love, He was moved to create man Gen 1:26. He placed them in the garden of Eden, and they were to spread that paradise throughout the whole earth. Sadly, Adam chose to rebel against God's arrangement, which put a...

Is that all you got to say about that Marks?

Jesus clearly told the mother of James and John that he did not have the authority to grant her sons to sit on his right or left, and he did not know the day or hour, but Jehovah did. So if Jesus is God, he lied. We have no hope from any god who is a liar sir. That would definitely explain why...

So continue on sir, until you narrow it down to the one faith. What would you say would be the next identifier to narrow it further.