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  1. David in NJ

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Again , just your words with no scripture. Speaking the Truth is what God commands us to do. If pre-trib rapture were true God would of said it in His word. Matthew 4:4 "Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the Mouth of God". -
  2. David in NJ

    Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men

    No, but we have been created by God to know Him and love Him. This is clearly expressed in John 1:10-13 and John 6:43-45 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him. But as many as received Him...
  3. David in NJ

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Based on your comments you obviously do not know or understand scripture. Daniel ch9 “Seventy weeks are determined For your people and for your holy city, To finish the transgression, To make an end of sins, To make reconciliation for iniquity, To bring in everlasting righteousness, To seal up...
  4. David in NJ

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    You believe in pre-trib rapture but this does not mean it is truth or comes from truth. Lying is the sin that brought the whole world under the power of satan and death. God said we are never to add to His words or take away(deny) His words for if we do we can end up being a liar. pre-trib...
  5. David in NJ

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    #1. - There is no pre-trib rapture in Daniel chapter 9 or in any place in the Book of Daniel. #2.- Daniel chapter nine proves that we are in the 70th Week. #3.- Blood washed Saints are the Bride of Christ = Matthew ch24 , 2 Corinthians 11:2 , Ephesians 5:22-33 ALSO Genesis declares that...
  6. David in NJ

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Why are you lying? You said: "I just pointed out how the gospel is preached in spades after we go up to be with Him in the air" You never showed any such scripture that states this. There is only one Coming of Christ = His Second Coming as declared by the LORD, the Apostles and OT Prophets 1...
  7. David in NJ

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Beginning in Genesis God declares both the first Coming of Messiah as well as His Second Coming. i only asked you if you can find just one verse that declares a 'pre-trib rapture' of the Body of Christ anywhere in Scripture. The OT contains His First Coming which includes: a.) His Coming in...
  8. David in NJ

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Again, this type of thinking comes not from God and cannot be found in Scripture. Furthermore it goes directly against the words of the LORD Jesus Christ - Matthew ch24 "And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come."...
  9. David in NJ

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Well i see you cannot find the Living Waters of Truth concerning His Second Coming and the Resurrection. If there was truth in pre-trib rapture, God would of spoken it but as such HE did not for it is impossible for God to lie. Which is why you cannot find a single 'pre-trib rapture'...
  10. David in NJ

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Christ does not leave any Saints behind. Just as pre-trib rapture is a lie it gives birth to more lies = "left behind tribulation saints"
  11. David in NJ

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    When was the last time you read thru 1 Thessalonians start to finish? Maybe you missed these parts: 1:10 - and to await His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead—Jesus our deliverer from the coming wrath. 2:14-16 - For you, brothers, became imitators of the churches of God in Judea...
  12. David in NJ

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Yes, Dispensationalism is based on pre-trib rapture and it separates Jew from Gentile in Christ., distorting Truth. On the other hand, God has not forgotten the people/Jews whom He foreknew and He will restore them. Matthew 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those...
  13. David in NJ

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Brother, Please review Romans chapters 9, 10, 11 concerning the earthbound Israel/Jews. It is TRUTH that there are two separate Israels - one of the flesh that are dead sins and the One of the Spirit - true Israel of God As such, there are two separate Jerusalems - one on earth in bondage and...
  14. David in NJ

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    If pre-trib rapture were truth anyone would be able to find God speaking it = in His Word. Since it never came out of the Mouth of God all you have are your own words - when that fails you go to ad hominem.
  15. David in NJ

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    1 Thess & 2 Thess and 1 Corinthians ch15 and Matt ch24 and 1 John ch2 & ch3 and Revelation all AGREE with "that claim". The OT Prophets also AGREE with "that claim". There is not a single pre-trib rapture declaration or prophecy in all of Scripture - from Genesis to Revelation
  16. David in NJ

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    He leaves Heaven and comes to earth in the clouds - just as HE left. Acts ch1 After He had said this, they watched as He was taken up, and a cloud hid Him from their sight. 10They were looking intently into the sky as He was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them...
  17. David in NJ

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    There is much that we agree on Scripture. However, this is where you drift away from the Word = You say: "Jesus does not descend at the rapture either." This is not truthful for the Scripture cannot lie: 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 = JESUS DESCENDS from Heaven Brothers, we do not want you to be...
  18. David in NJ

    Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men

    Because God called no human a "son of God" except Adam. Only when "the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" do we see God bringing forth "sons of God". He was in the world, and though the world was made through Him, the world did not recognize Him. He came to His own, and His own did not...
  19. David in NJ

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Amazing - now we have earthlings thinking they can tell the LORD Jesus where HE can and cannot be. Zechariah 14:1-5 Behold, a day of the LORD is coming when your plunder will be divided in your presence. 2For I will gather all the nations for battle against Jerusalem, and the city will be...
  20. David in NJ

    Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men

    It sounds reasonable to our natural minds but that is not what Scripture defines for us. There is not a single scripture that denotes the lineage of Seth as the "sons of God". This specific phrase only pertains to spiritual beings that came into existence as directly from God. Adam was a "son...