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Well, this is the observation I was making with WPM, all of the insults and vitriol, is this evidence of the Spirit Of God?

Okay, wasn’t this what the New Testament writers were confirming in the epistles, that the spirit of God was in fact in them?

You seem to be tormented.

I would suggest that if the Spirit of God is in fact in you, then Jesus has returned in the flesh.

Your not meek.

To me it seems the only record I can find of a wedding ceremony is in the New Testament. It appears that Old Testament as well as New Testament upon consummation it was a done deal. In the eyes of God anyway. Maybe not in the eyes of man?

Were you able to work out how it was that Joseph did as the the Angel said and took Mary to be his wife? Just the statement alone from the Angel implies there was something yet remaining that Mary and Joseph had yet to do to be instituted into marriage in the eyes of God?

I mean there has been a two thousand year old culture built around this.

I agree completely, but this way all of the Romanization is taken out. All the Greeks will never surrender!

I will say though Jesus was unique, in that he was the first born from above.

Well I just feel pretty stupid now. I knew for certain that Gods Spirit didn’t have sex with Mary and produce some type of Demi God. I assumed it was some type of scandal. I will take some time and research, could be I never took the opportunity to simply read the scripture without some type of...

Well I’m really enjoying your thread, and appreciate your time.

@VictoryinJesus and I are sort of an oddity on here, you weren’t aware but I actually took her to be my wife about 39 years ago. We been sharing a tent for a long time.

Ruth 4:13 KJV [13] So Boaz took Ruth, and she was his wife: and when he went in unto her, the Lord gave her conception, and she bare a son.

In his defense, he did say in the opening statement that if you can’t stomach independent thought- you can just move on?

I will admit, there could be a way of tooking, that I’m unaware of?

Genesis 24:67 KJV [67] And Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah's tent, and took Rebekah, and she became his wife; and he loved her: and Isaac was comforted after his mother's death.

So how is it he took her as his wife?

John 3:27-29 KJV [27] John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven. [28] Ye yourselves bear me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him. [29] He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which...

What’s more interesting too me than the attitudes of men, is that John in the womb of Elisabeth is full of joy upon hearing the voice of Mary, and the reason is due to something The Baptist was quoted as having said in the gospel of John.