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Your response confirms to me that you didn't watch the presentation. If you had and you disagree, you would address that which you found objectionable. Instead, you choose to cast a poor light on it by labelling it with an unjustified pejorative. hmmmm

The operative principle if you have missed it is, Jesus is the final authority. It appears to me you never heard the presentation and have just assumed an outcome. ....and are you desirous of solutions or are you desirous of being objectionable?

Your spin/ perception, I'm not doing that at all. ....and now you go into a lengthy explanation in an attempt to nullify a position I do not hold ....a point of view you have imagined I've made, to quote you, '"selling" me your brand-a bloodless gospel, a cross-less gospel.'

With respect Johann, I find your responses contrary to your claim of not setting up hoops to jump through. It's as though you require the whole cake baked just as as we have pulled the flour out of its container and if it's not, you question the integrity of the ingredients. It appears to me...

Pearl, I think you could be interested in this presentation....

It's the how factor. As an example, how do you hear your children? How did the Pharisees hear Jesus? ....so, back to your question, how do I hear Jesus? Firstly the how factor bears fruit by my objective and that is to introduce folk to Jesus. It also bears fruit in the desire to not be...

If one hears his voice, one interprets scripture by what one has heard. When one does not hear his voice, scripture is understood and interpreted sterile of the Jesus factor. From my observation, this usually results in energy spent proving one's particular doctrinal point of view.....usually...

Are you asking because you don't know or are you asking to set up hoops for me to jump through Johann? 'his sheep hear his voice and he calls them by name'... John 10:3-4 3To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice; and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4And...

Fauci needs to go to prison Do you mean he's a sinner and you want punishment for him while exonerating yourself by concealing your sins?

As I said, we hear him. Would you share your thoughts on the subject matter of the presentation?

We hear him. Did you get to listen Brian Zahn's presentation?

He becomes our priority. We learn of him till he becomes the key to all the mysteries of scripture.

Oh Johann, my perceptions of you are not the subject matter. The only thing that matters is what we do with Jesus.

@Johann, If your ears are itching; if you are looking for value, maybe you will listen to this guy's presentation; we could have something juicy and fruitful to talk about.

Then why ask me this?, 'So, are you doing something, in ministerial work- As unto the Lord? Maybe you need to be curious about my emphasis. Have you ever wondered what Jesus emphasised? ....it might highlight your own my friend?

You know as well as I do Enoch, that the sabbath days referenced here are the many ceremonial sabbaths in the Hebrew calendar, yet you insist on making it mean the 7th day Sabbath. Doing this is akin to justifying coveting by claiming the Law is done away with.....and if you want to stretch it...

What do I claim and what do I do?

What I say and what you hear are evidently two different things, evidenced by the conclusions you draw.

Preach?... is that how you hear it? Holier than thou?.... what a bizarre conclusion. Subtly or directly in accusative attack mode?.....a rebuke heard as an attack? what strange ears!

Peter's springboard and thus his emphasis is that Jesus has the ongoing present preeminence. Pauls was the same as were all the apostles. It is the result/ fruit of a love relationship with the Master. When this reality become our present truth, all the debates about works and words fade...