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    No-one has gone to heaven?

    You think that to be so, because you believe that a person must be tried/tested first, in order to be saved! Thats why you think I am contradicting myself. I posted before that no one deserves His free Gift of eternal life, no matter what they say, do or try to prove. Its all by his Grace!
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    No-one has gone to heaven?

    Not so fast! I am still convinced that born again christians, who do walk in faith, cannot be decieved, according to Jesus' promise in Matthew 24[24] For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall...
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    No-one has gone to heaven?

    I am talking about people who profess to be Christians, who have a form of godliness (Tares), but deny the power thereof . 2 Timothy 3:1-5. They appear to be Christians among US who ARE born again! But now, you are speaking of those who blaspheme (speak evil) against the Holy Spirit, of which...
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    No-one has gone to heaven?

    Sorry, I don't agree with that for one minute! The falling away will be about false christians. The MoB will be the tool that shall "gather them in bundles". This will not be about apostasy at a local church, a particular denomination. Its going to be apostasy on a global scale. Those that...
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    No-one has gone to heaven?

    ETERNAL LIFE IS FREELY GIVEN TO ALL who are born again of His Holy Spirit! God GAVE because He loves us!! John 3:16. Are you in the habit of earning a gift from those that love you? Do you go over and clean up their yard on a very hot day, in hope that they will bring a gift to you? And if not...
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    No-one has gone to heaven?

    You are absolutely correct!! Either a believer in Jesus has the Holy Spirit or he does not! Romans 8:9 That is what the parable of the Wheat and Tares is adressing! The "servants" (churches) are not able to discern who is who, and therefore are told to do no "weeding". All of that will be...
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    No-one has gone to heaven?

    Yes, its always about belief or unbelief, aka having faith as opposed to not having faith. Hebrews 3[18] And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not. Matthew 11:28-30 and John 3:5-7. I do understand the perspective that you are attempting to...
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    No-one has gone to heaven?

    In 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3, we are being informed that the Day of the Lord shall not come, *except there come a falling away first,... > That event of "a falling away" is not relative to Born Again Christians, but rather to the world as a whole. Jesus said this: Luke 18[8] I tell you that he...
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    No-one has gone to heaven?

    You placed a (?) After my quote of Matthew 24:24. Why? Is it because you don't understand the verse? Here it is from the KJV:[ 24] For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very...
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    No-one has gone to heaven?

    I already know of what I believe, and I truthfully reported it as such when I quoted 1 John 5:12-13. Now, if you can comprehend that, then you will know also that His Gift of Eternal Life is freely given before there is any trial of one's faith. And since that is the truth, Matthew 24:24 and...
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    No-one has gone to heaven?

    That's my point! True born again Christians cannot "fall away" from faith! They ARE the Wheat. All others are Tares. Romans 8:8-9 explains it completely! [8] So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. [9] But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God...
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    No-one has gone to heaven?

    Did Jesus purchase you, or did you purchase Jesus? In either case, who was it that "sold/traded ALL that he had and bought it"? Did you buy Jesus, who is the pearl, or did Jesus buy you, who is the pearl? You know the cost of what Jesus paid! It was all that He had. Do you know the cost of...
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    No-one has gone to heaven?

    ^ Correction: 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3
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    No-one has gone to heaven?

    In the parable of the wheat and the tares, it is critical to note, that even the "servants" (church) don't know who are the wheat and who are the tares. Iows, many have a profession of faith as being a Christian, but they do not have God's Holy Spirit within them. Romans 8:8-9. Matthew 13[27]...
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    No-one has gone to heaven?

    ^ Also, consider the words of Paul in how we are to understand the words "come up hither": Eph. 2[4] But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, [5] Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) [6] And hath raised...
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    No-one has gone to heaven?

    Is not that "door" Jesus Himself? John 10:7-9 For all who are born again, they have entered into the KoG (come up hither) spiritually, and are being shown things which must be hereafter.
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    No-one has gone to heaven?

    Consider the fact John 3:18 1 John 5:12-13 and Romans 8:8-9 vehemently speak contrary to your form of belief in God's salvation through Christ. Proof of being eternally saved, for all who are tried: Matthew 24:24. John 10:28-29.
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    No-one has gone to heaven?

    At the moment, of course you do! The way most are taught by Religion is just the opposite. And of course you would accept their teaching, because their orientation is to copy/mimic Him by their own form of righteousness, of which they heap upon you. Think on this: John 5[39] Search the...
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    No-one has gone to heaven?

    Mat. 20[28] Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. 1 Tim. 2[5] For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; [6] Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. >So, what...
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    No-one has gone to heaven?

    Ok, back to the two parables I posted, with His understanding by His own words: Mat. 13[44] Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field. Q. Who is...