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Soooooo it looks like we are in agreement. It is NOT the Catechism since you admit it 'a tool for educating new Catholic converts'. Finally we agree on something!!

Hi pearl, Ritual is something that has been in religion since before Christianity. What is the one ritual that Christian churches practice that you disagree with the most?

I know this thread is not about other churches. I am just trying to get a comparative idea on what you mean by cult. According to the dictionary definition of “cult” all religions are a cult soooooo I was just wondering what other denominations/religions YOU consider a cult. curious Mary

Post #144 is “cut and pasted” from the last paragraph of your original post. Have you already forgotten what you wrote?? I feel like your joking with me....:rolleyes:

I knew you would respond in a way that allowed you to dodge my legitimate questions. Instead of honestly answering those questions that would destroy your inflated belief in yourself you answer in a way that makes it MY FAULT that you are not going to answer. Simply fascinating.....It was...

Ummmm.....You do know that The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine is NOT the Catechism of The Church? Sooooo would you like to try again?

Hi, Yes! What you are saying makes sense if you don’t believe or have faith in what Jesus and Paul is saying is true. You said: All that is required for salvation is true belief in Christ. But you also said “I would like to believe....belief is a choice”. If all that is required is true...

Hmmmm.....I may be completely misunderstanding your position. If so I apologize. Aquinas holds true to the doctrine of transubstantiation. Do you? Transubstantiation: the bread and wine, at the moment of consecration during Holy Mass, actually become the body and blood of Jesus Christ. The...

YOU have been given the ability to sort out the good from the bad? Are you saying your tutors, who were “fine men”, lacked that ability? You are right......I am a “slave to Catholic theology”. It has a 2,000 year history of many fine men coming up with that theology. YOU are a slave to YOUR...

You said Hillsong employed an enforcer to remove people that did not submit to their authority AND they threatened physical abuse and or calling the police to have me removed from the meeting. You were present during those events? Curious Mary

Please do quote from the Catechism that Rome admits that. Curious Mary

Hi Renniks, YES, completely opposite!! No, not a different perspective!! The Church has learned many new things throughout the years but the truth doesn’t change. The truth has been rejected, but it hasn’t changed. The truth is Jesus told us what we must do when he said we must eat his body...

I am a bit confused by your post sir. You say you don’t want hearsay but go on to post hearsay. I like some of their songs. I don’t think Hillsong fits the definition of a cult. Are there other churches that has members worldwide that fit your definition of a cult?

;) I know, I know....you’re a self taught theologian which means you’re never wrong.

Thank you. I don’t understand how you can say his real presence is in the Eucharist but then also say it’s a symbol. Confusing for sure. I could go into how the door or vine or salt of the earth analogies are not the same but you have accepted the 500 year teaching of man instead of the 2000...

Ok....thank you. It should be noted that Aquinas, whom you didn’t fully quote in regard to this subject, disagrees with you. Also he was not part of the early Catholic Church since he lived in the 13th century. However he did agree with the ECF’s about the real presence in the Eucharist.

Thank you for bringing Aquinas into the conversation ST. THOMAS AQUINAS ON THE EUCHARIST - Crossroads Initiative

Ummm.....Scripture never said it is a symbol. Paul didn’t teach it as a symbol. The earliest Christian writers never said they took it as a symbol. The symbol teaching was started about 500 years ago. I completely understand how you see it. Those of us that believe in the real presence take...

Ok....thank you. I assumed you wanted to know the history of the ‘grape juice’ replacing wine in Christianity. If it doesn’t concern you at all that your Church is following a 19th century tradition instead of Scripture then that is your choice. I get it. It makes no sense to me either. When...