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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    I will raise them on the last day.

    You tell me. You seem to do it often. His body is dead. What excuse do you have for not knowing the difference between the body, soul and spirit? 1 Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    I will raise them on the last day.

    Wrong. Have you never read this.... Acts 2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. 30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    I will raise them on the last day.

    That's not the typical Premil view, but whatever. That contradicts Jesus teaching that there will be no marriage and no death in the age to come (Luke 20:34-36). They are not in view there because there will be no mortals in the age to come. Why are you not willing to be honest with the text...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    I will raise them on the last day.

    I agree that the first 4 things you mentioned are closely connected, but where do those scriptures you referenced say anything about the beginning of Christ's reign at that time? Scripture says that He has been reigning for a long time already (Matthew 28:18, Ephesians 1:19-22, Colossians...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    I will raise them on the last day.

    That's exactly what will happen and is plainly stated by Paul. You are turning something simple into something complicated . This is also clearly influenced by your belief in the false doctrine of soul sleep. That is all complete nonsense. To act as if Jesus will wait until that time toe...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    I will raise them on the last day.

    First, you say "we rule and reign with Christ today". Then you say "we are not reigning on earth yet". That's a contradiction. Are you not located on earth? I'm pretty sure you are. So, if we are reigning with Christ today, as you said we are, then we are reigning on earth because that's where...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    I will raise them on the last day.

    It is not necessarily the case that the word shall only refers to something that happens in the future. For example, let's say, in relation to anyone who ever believes in Christ, that we shall all be born again. By making that statement am I only referring to 1) people who are born again in the...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    I will raise them on the last day.

    Are you an adult capable of having an adult discussion without just making one liner comments that aren't clear as to what you're intending to say? You think 1 Corinthians 15:52 supports your false belief in soul sleep somehow? Explain why. Do you understand the context of 1 Corinthians 15:52...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    I will raise them on the last day.

    LOL!!! Hello? Are you even reading your own posts? You are the one talking about parables when I'm trying to discuss 1 Corinthians 15:20-23. You are being very evasive, as usual.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    I will raise them on the last day.

    Where do you get that idea from? I guess you believe in the false doctrine of soul sleep.
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    I will raise them on the last day.

    Are you saying that you think Paul was telling a parable in 1 Corinthians 15:20-23 rather than giving a literal order of resurrections while talking about the literal bodily resurrection of Christ and the literal bodily resurrection of those who belong to Christ at His second coming?
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    I will raise them on the last day.

    Jesus spoke about this age and the age to come in Luke 20:34-36. He said in this age people get married and they die and in the age to come people will no longer get married or die. In the Premil view, the age to come is the thousand years. By saying there will be babies born during a time after...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    I will raise them on the last day.

    LOL. Dream on, buddy. To claim that what Paul said about the order of resurrections in 1 Corinthians 15:22-23 can be compared to making an order of food at a restaurant is one of the most ridiculous interpretations imaginable. Your nonsense is not over my head, it's below the ground.
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    I will raise them on the last day.

    I agree. Which is why I gave my view of what happened to them. Because of what Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 15:22-23 where he gives the order of resurrections unto bodily immortality without mentioning anyone there but Christ and those who belong to Christ at His coming, we can safely deduce that...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    I will raise them on the last day.

    LOL! 1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. You are comparing the order of resurrecitions that Paul gives here where he indicates that...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    I will raise them on the last day.

    LOL. I'm simply referring to the resurrection of Christ itself in terms of the act of Him being bodily resurrected from the dead. You can refer to a resurrection itself in terms of the act of being bodily resurrected from the dead. You are playing word games here because that's all you have to...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    I will raise them on the last day.

    So, you have decided that the first resurrection refers to the first mass bodily resurrection that does not include a rapture. I can only shake my head. You definitely can't find any scripture which speaks of a first resurrection in that sense anywhere. But, you can find scripture which speaks...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    I will raise them on the last day.

    How does this address what I said in my post? I don't see that it does at all. Are you saying that those who are referenced in Matthew 27:52-53 had immortal bodies? If so, how does that line up with 1 Corinthians 15:22-23? Why did Paul not mention them there if they were resurrected with...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    I will raise them on the last day.

    Not unto bodily immortality, but the text is very clear that they were bodily resurrected. Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. This...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    I will raise them on the last day.

    You said "they were not raised in them old bodies again", so are you saying you think the ones referenced in Matthew 27:52-53 were resurrected with glorified, immortal bodies? If so, how can that be in light of what Paul said here... 1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ...