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Satan fell before Adam and Eve fell. How can you say evil was introduced by Adam and Eve? Evil, the serpent, satan, the devil, was slithering in the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Stranger

I'm not the one pushing the subject of angels. You are. Which is fine. Do it in a designated thread. You're scared. I can tell. Stranger

I believe the verse you speak of holds much relevance. Not for you of course, but for what I was saying. Funny, I don't feel any heat. As I said, start another thread on angels, I will be glad to participate. That is not the subject matter of this one. You're scared to, arn't you? Stranger

Evil is but the opposite of the will of God. Both angels and men can be responsible , depending on the direction they go. Stranger

No doubt, the liberal, atheistic, left will use this to try and repeal the 2nd amendment, or at least get more gun control. But is that a motive for the shooter? When you say 'they' then you include a lot of others in this shooting. A plot and conspiracy. I don't believe at this time...

An M60 may have accomplished the same thing, but what was used? What caliber of bullets were used? I'm sure they know as some must have been found in the people. I haven't heard. He may not have had the many weapons just for shooting at the concert goers. It could have been to stand off...

I still haven't heard of any motive of the shooter. And, I hear less talk about the motive on the reporting. It shouldn't take this long. I don't think they are looking, they are creating. Strnger

If you have nothing against it, have a beer or two before going to bed. Stranger

There hasn't been any admission to constitute a 'further admission'. Only in your mind. Start another thread on 'angels' if you're so interested. That is not the subject of this thread. Stranger

You misunderstood my use of the word 'save'. I used it as 'except', not 'deliverance'. See, we are getting closer now to your focus on angels. But angels are not really the topic of thread. So start another topic or go back to your previous one. Stranger

I was being honest. Stranger

The name Elohim is used for many things. It doesn't mean angels bear His name. They don't bear His nature. They appear in our image They don't bear our image. And angels are not made in the image of God. Stranger

We are not told angels are created in any ones image. Why should I lie? Stranger

In other words, the words 'angels are created in the image of God' are nowhere to be found. Stranger

And do you think you can overpower a man with evil intent on his mind? Do you think he is not armed with something in some way? Don't believe hollywood that shows women fighting men and winning. You can forget it. And, you may be up against more than one. What then? The fear factor...

What good are those if you don't want to hurt anyone? Stranger

Where are the 'words' that angels are created in the image of God? Stranger

Well, I hope your experience did not scare you away from guns. Women can handle guns as well as any man. Like you said in your first post here, you wouldn't know how to use a gun if you had one. And that is the case for many people. Hollywood likes to show people just picking up a gun and...

What turns grace into disgrace? Grace is hyper by it's very nature. 'Where sin abounded grace did much more abound'. (Rom. 5:20) Sin does not turn grace into disgrace. It can't. So what does? Stranger

We are to exercise our will in doing God's will. God has chosen to exercise His will through our will. Just like with the elect of God. God has the elect, chosen by Him. But, the elect only come to knowing they are elect by first exercising their will to come to Christ. Thus God's will is...