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My argument, as you have just proven, with all your examples, is that the Roman Church was not the primary church in Scripture. It never had the lead. If any church did it would have been the church at Antioch. That was the church Paul always went back to and reported to. I admit the...

It is an honest answer so certainly it is enough. Though there is only one way to be saved, that being through Jesus Christ, many and varied and mysterious are the ways God brings each one to Him. Your relationship with Him is yours, and I am sure He will give you the view of His Word He wants...

Sounds good. I'm wore out anyway. Stranger

Well, the number of verses doesn't prove a point. It just proves one has found a long list of verses to make it appear that their point is proved. Concerning these verses you have addressed, (Matt. 7:21-23), they concern, not the Church, but the Kingdom of God. Something you and I have...

I am not going to write 20 pages to cover the amount of verses you have presented. Every verse you present will become many posts of arguments. Thus what you are doing is making a smoke screen to give yourself room to jump and hide all over the place. You probably got the list from...

Should have been in Rome? Says you. Not the Scripture. Yeah, you wish it had been in Rome. The church at Rome was never the primary church in Scripture. You and the Romans wish it was, but it wasn't. The church at Rome already existed. It doesn't matter that Peter and Paul...

Wow!...It is not that the church at Rome is not mentioned 'every' time. It is that it is 'never' mentioned, except when Paul wrote to the church at Rome. Wow...you would think if the church at Roman was really 'catholic' there would be a little more authority given to it in the Scripture...

GodsGrace Well, do you see all the people from Adam to Abraham as being Israel? Catholic is not a church it simply speaks to being universal. The Roman Church is just the the church at Rome. All believers are part of the Catholic Church of Jesus Christ. The Church of Jesus Christ didn't...

I see what you are saying. I do believe you minimize the importance of the written Word in our lives as Christians. I'm sure you see it as important but not to the degree that I think you should. I believe Jesus saw the written Word as important. (Matt. 4:4,7,10) Stranger

No, it's your choice. What is your prayer? Let's see how it is answered. Stranger

If the Lord chooses to extend that time then that is up to Him. But if He wants to extend that time He can do it without me taking a bunch of pills. As I said, when it is time to go we as Christians should be ready to go. I am not trying to live down here forever. The question should be...

I have always said to others concerning depression; if you are depressed then you are thinking correctly. There is nothing wrong with the way you see things. Our problem is when we don't see our position as far as what we can do about it. You do the things you can do, and then you let it go...

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Could you explain? Stranger

No, you didn't say 'we' should pray and believe. You said, 'your choice'. Post #1. In other words, you place yourself on a higher spiritual plane and if the storm is catastrophic, then it is not your fault, but others. You are such a hypocrite. Stranger

Why don't 'you' believe and speak to the storm in the name of Jesus and command the storm turn and calm down and die? Why is it not 'your choice'? Stranger

Zachary In all of Scripture 'application' can be made to the believer. That is not the point. Unless your interpretation of the Scripture is correct, then your application will not be correct. So, you can list (Gen.1:1-Rev.22:21). It all applies to the believer. but unless interpreted...

Wow....exactly! The issues being discussed didn't pertain to the church at Rome. The Roman church was neither here nor there. Wow...my point is made. The church at Corinth, Philippi, Thessalonica, Antioch and Jeursalem, were not claiming to be Catholic, as the church at Rome wants to...

Rome sees herself over all churches. Yet Rome is not mentioned in any way shape or form concerning these 7 churches. Note they are the 7 churches of Asia. They are not the Catholic churches of Rome. Stranger

Has anyone noticed that in the book of Revelation that the Roman Church is not mentioned? There are 7 churches used to describe the condition of the Church, and the Roman Church is not one of them. Seems that if the Roman church was Catholic or universal, it would have been mentioned. I mean...

Not only is God not worried about offending us, but is there anything we can do to take away from God? Do my sins take away from God? No. Many act as though our sins take something from God. Our sins take nothing away from God. They affect us, but they don't detract from God. God is not...