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  1. Wrangler

    The social gospel?

    That's your problem! I'm reading a book now called No More Christian Nice Guy. The author parses the Spiritual from the Soulful. He contends today's churches are too biased toward the Spiritual, neglecting the practical needs of the body of Christ. Although my daily bread, which I give thanks...
  2. Wrangler

    The social gospel?

    Often when I read @Episkopos posts, I'm reminded of that insurance commercial where an old guy has a fishing rod with a dollar attached the hook. His reliance on mysticism causes his readers to go from following what he is saying to NOPE, almost got it, e.g., "INTO" Christ, Jesus did not pay for...
  3. Wrangler

    The social gospel?

    Epi, my post was not directed to ‘people’ but you. A little humility would go a long way. Rita writes a lot of the Spirit and it is apparent you are not of the Spirit due to your glaring lack of humility. Just admit that there are consequences, price to pay for ALL our choices, including...
  4. Wrangler

    The social gospel?

    Eli is all over the place. Epi, Rita said you are splitting hairs. A little discernment. When people say “Jesus paid for our sins,” they mean the consequences of our sins. Sadly, I believe you are VERY disingenuous to proclaim “Sins are free.” Everything is free but you have to pay for it.
  5. Wrangler

    It Was Hard For Me To Understand Christian Modesty for Women

    There are now much better work pants than jeans. Lighteweight, breathable, soft, stretchy nylon that dries quickly with more pockets and zippers. Try Men's Work Pants & Shorts
  6. Wrangler

    Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

    The hateful "I don't need a man" mantra. The way I see it, if a woman embraces this mantra, men should avoid her like the plague of death. Independent of ANY relationship, all people, including women, should strive to be the best they can be. Everyone should strive to be healthy - mentally...
  7. Wrangler

    Should I Leave My Church?

    Thank you everyone for your contribution.
  8. Wrangler

    The social gospel?

    The things you read on the internet is amazing.
  9. Wrangler

    Should I Leave My Church?

    I'm afraid that is more likely than not. No. A book I read on boundaries said that you know you are in an unhealthy situation when you are expected to have a high tolerance for unacceptable behavior. Hiding humiliating people under the banner of a joke would not work against Blacks or women...
  10. Wrangler

    Should I Leave My Church?

    Perhaps I am to be the one to initiate the meeting.
  11. Wrangler

    The social gospel?

    Well said.
  12. Wrangler

    Q for JW- KIEW?

    I really don't know how you come to that based on the verse. A debt paid is not the same as a debt forgiven. I believe God has inhuman compassion. He knows the debt we have and wants us to repent. He's done his part.
  13. Wrangler

    Should I Leave My Church?

    I sent an email. No response. There is something coming up Saturday. I'll wait until then to reach out by phone. Regarding the weirdness of it, the author of the book Women Can't Hear What Men Don't Say observes Hatred toward women is called sexism. Hatred toward Blacks is called racism. Hated...
  14. Wrangler

    Should I Leave My Church?

    I'm soliciting opinions, not being dictated to.
  15. Wrangler

    Should I Leave My Church?

    It would probably be better if it was. A few years ago they humiliated men by making them participate in a tie knot making contest where the "winner" sat it a reclining chair AS IF this has anything to do with what father's are about. The "Pre" is a new age video before the service hosted by...
  16. Wrangler

    Should I Leave My Church?

    Father's Day celebration. They asked men trivial questions like what color the children’s eyes are, what their pediatrician’s name is. They even asked one grandfather what is the date of his 2 grandchildren’s birthday. When he gave the month and year, the FEMALE interviewer told him that was not...
  17. Wrangler

    Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

    So, you're a Christian, huh? FYI, your reply is formulaic as my answer is grounded in definition and the branch of philosophy known as epistemology, not 'Bronze-Age beliefs' - AS IF that automatically would make them invalid.
  18. Wrangler

    It Was Hard For Me To Understand Christian Modesty for Women

    Really? I think there is only one. Attention, which is gratifying to the immodest ego.
  19. Wrangler

    Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

    Feminist mission accomplished.