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  1. Wrangler

    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    I've experienced Grace before I obeyed. Don't tell me I don't know it! You only think you know ABOUT Grace but it is you who do not know Grace. Grace is unearned. If you receive it as a result of works (obeying commands) then you have reduced it to justice, getting what one earned. Then we may...
  2. Wrangler

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    There is no ‘godhead’ in Scripture. This is an error in translations with ‘James’ in the title and explains why more recent and better translations don’t have that word or concept.
  3. Wrangler

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Although you asked a question, you failed to use a question mark. I always found this verse out of place. And as you pointed out, even more so for not having context or explanation. As I read the Bible suspicion of this verse was cemented in the fact that the Apostles did not once baptize...
  4. Wrangler

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Is God the son of man?
  5. Wrangler

    Self Control

    This is a great point and I feel it also. I believe this is part of what Jesus meant when he talked about the narrow road. On the narrow road, I am carried by the currents of the Spirit. On the wide road, I arrive due to my own ego and desires. Any "victory" here is mine but not the way and why...
  6. Wrangler

    Self Control

    Because of the difference between literal and figurative. Many Bible readers get confused between the 2.
  7. Wrangler

    Self Control

    I believe this is the consequence of our new found humility. The very first thing we need self control over is our ego.
  8. Wrangler

    Self Control

    This observation rings true and is aligned with a SciFi thing called "The Force", which is at odds what some claim about the Spirit/Being Saved/Being Born Again. The 2nd group claims that sin is impossible once this status is achieved. Force sensitive beings in Star Wars have the ability to be...
  9. Wrangler

    Self Control

    Great thread Rita! Thank you so much for starting it. So timely too in light of the replies to @Pancho Frijoles Introduction thread. (I was going to start a thread on this topic due to the replies in @Pancho Frijoles' Intro thread.) I believe @Pancho Frijoles Intro thread is a case study in...
  10. Wrangler

    Do you believe this is...

    I unwatched this thread due to your not answering me after I asked you twice. True, you THEN answered. Now, I've lost interest. I want to make 2 points, objective and subjective. OBJECTIVE: I believe if you have the heart to seek, you will find that Demons are fallen Angels and Satan is the...
  11. Wrangler

    Tel Aviv currently under attack

    This is why you don't get invited to parties.
  12. Wrangler

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    All of the New Testament writers were before Arius and affirmed Arius. If I say the man in question, Bob, is the brother of Harry, that implies he (the man in question) is NOT Harry right?
  13. Wrangler

    Hi, everybody

    Hard to say. I’ve lived joyfully in every stage. There is something to especially enjoy in each stage. As I enter the twilight of my life, the satisfaction that my ego (sense of self) has expanded from this one God given body to many. Seeing this geometric expansion to the 3rd generation is...
  14. Wrangler

    Hi, everybody

    I apologize for my enthusiastic brother and am grateful for your thoughtful replies. Some here like to debate a little too much. My advice is to use the IGNORE feature as needed. While I confess that sometimes applies to me, I know not every thread is a debate thread. Not having read all the...
  15. Wrangler

    Hi, everybody

    Is that you?
  16. Wrangler

    Hi, everybody

    Welcome to the forum. I look forward to interesting conversations.
  17. Wrangler

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Your question has an implied premise that I reject. You are assuming he called himself this. By contrast, there is no doubt God called himself by singular pronouns and is referred to using singular pronouns thousands of times. What does that tell you?
  18. Wrangler

    ScientificA

    No. How we feel is a consequence of the Spirit we accepted, not the cause. Please don't take what follows harshly. IMO, both Atheism and Agnoisticism are nihilistic. In the great battle between good and evil, you must pick a side. Time is running out. If you refuse to decide, the decision will...
  19. Wrangler

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Under no definition does us/our refer to father and son. Regarding math, 2 does not equal 3.
  20. Wrangler

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    We are not supposed to talk about this Jack. No verse says what you claim. You have to read it into the unitarian text of the Jewish monotheists.