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I see you're an Albertan? Is that the right term? :) You might be interested in the ReDiscovering God podcasts linked in my signature. They are discussions amongst three 'Albertans' Their objective is to explore and reinforce the knowledge of how wonderfully gracious our advocate is.

Imagine having the right order of every single blow, so to speak, in the prophetic narrative. So what? I'm certain the devils who have studied the scriptures for longer have more accuracy regarding unfolding events than men do......but what good is it to them? I can imagine they (the devils)...

I'm well aware I have put you on the spot Phoneman, by asking the question I've asked, however in the context you have set up there is no reason for you not to give a straight answer......or is there? Be fearless, be honest and we can continue meaningfully.

and you don't think you have a blinkered view of the Grace of God?

Moses was impatient also. He took the initiative and it cost him the throne. Forty years later Moses became useful......What a lesson!

and we all assume the axe being at the root of the tree is someone else's tree but what happens when it is at ours? Do we go into denial? Do we avoid the threatening questions altogether? Do we engage fancy footwork to distract? Do we have courage or does cowardice take the drivers seat?

We all assume that the 'wrong' theology will lead us down paths contrary to our interests, however my question is, can the 'right' theology take us down paths equally contrary to our interests?

yes, yes....I'm not concerned Phoneman......but maybe you could answer the question anyway :)

I see you hold him to the moral Law, Enoch

let me ask this; do you keep the Law?

Could it be that God's love eclipses all rebellion from woe to go?....or has the expression 'God's love' worn thin and lost its meaning? No, I'm not saying we have a license to sin, I am saying that God desires we trust he has our back ie, the back of sinners. I know, I know, those who insist...

'So what have we learned?' to quote you, AJ......well I don't know about the 'we' factor but I do know about the 'you' factor, ie, what you have learned. My observations tell me that you have learned to out those you don't agree with....both personally and organisationally. That's the go to...

love holds no record of wrongs.....what can overcome it?

what do you find wondrous about it farouk?

This stuff can't be explained or rationalised to those who don't have it nor to those who think they have it and don't. The words debated do not equate with the substance. Conversely, those who have the Holy Spirit generally know it and don't require the debate.

why not use two tails and make a statement! :eek:

If it was God's objective for us to major on 'the apocalypse' per se and in a chronological order that many exponents are so sure of, how is it that the NT reference which they elaborate on is so different? The objective of the OT, apart from it being a history of the Hebrews, is to draw...

Wax on Wax off ....and I thought it was a euphemism for pick up lines!

The Nature of Sin is Lust, not Molecular Have you ever considered making love to your wife without lust? or do you think of 'England' and sing 'God save the Queen' or something equivalent during the exercise?

A short music clip Have You Heard The News - Sally Hilder/Bob Wolfgramm