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your trust is beautiful sbg.

@John Caldwell ...If you feel it's in order to justify a cacophony and call it music, that is your choice. To me however, it speaks of the discordant mess that it is.

(my highlighting of your text) And if he did send someone in to counsel you and the counsel wasn't what you'd hoped for or expected what then? Here is Jonah....a prophet? he gets sent to Nineveh to deliver a message. Jonah is enthusiastic as well as knowing the Ninevites. He's been sent by God...

well, if we believed what you tell us in your posts, I'm sure we'd qualify! :eek:

God is constantly knocking on our door....he is respectful and doesn't just barge in. We, on the other hand, don't open the door because we assume it will cost something that is a favourite of ours.....even though we give lip service to wanting his guidance. We even have the front to think that...

I see you include yourself when you use the word 'most' however, you do not speak for me.

Can't access those attachments you posted Bl. Any chance of making them accessible?

gobbledy gook.....you quote out of context and then have the front to claim that your statements are sound doctrine.

the context of Paul's presentation in Romans 5:12-21 says it all

Reality does not revolve around you and you conclusions tf God did something in Jesus a couple of thousand years before you were born. All humanity is in Christ. You can't step in, you can only step out by dismissing what has been given you freely before you were born. You do this by inventing a...

Did you read Romans 5:12-21? ...vs 17, look at it and then ask questions. I read the NKJV but any version will be fine....do a comparison. Spoon feeding makes for immaturity.....you need to use the tools yourself and put your thinking cap on ....then we can converse and go places.

I s'pose it extends as far as what you will allow?

The context is 'in Adam'.....read up to verse 21....it clarifies it.

rubbish!

Romans 5:12

denying the obvious sets one up to swallow any clever operators spin.

Is Reincarnation baloney? you betcha!.........of the highest order!

Adam didn't exist prior to be created Jack. Life was given him and it would be forfeited if he ate of the forbidden fruit. That is what God told him plainly. It was the serpent who spun the lie that they would not die but become as God. 'Die', even for a numbo means you no longer are alive.

Out of interest Jack, 'punishment' is reference to the lack of life as opposed to life everlasting. These are the two polar opposites. The scripture is not referencing eternal life in conscious torment and eternal life in relational joy. ....and just to reiterate, the poles are Life & and no...

Good on you my dear....I'm gunning for you!