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  1. Wrangler

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    You agree that dwell does not mean is. Yet, you continue to argue a futile point?! Obviously, we disagree. You are trying to impose a tortured take on Phil 2:6 by denying, not only the "gloss" from Col 2:9 but the repeated and explicit proclamation in Scripture that Jesus is NOT YHWH as he is...
  2. Wrangler

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Double down on foolishness. It was funny - admit it. Not an attempt. Actually funny that I quoted you admitting you do not see! LOL:balloons: Regarding truncating a verse; I do it all the time so no one can get distracted by other parts that I am not drawing attention to. Jesus is explicitly...
  3. Wrangler

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    You said it. LOL
  4. Wrangler

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    You just like to go in circles. Your claim of ‘putting aside’ is contrary to ‘emptied himself’ of the translation. I know you want to assert your knowledge of Greek is superior to the English translations available AND presented. You don’t have eyes to see.
  5. Wrangler

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    I speak English. Col 2.9 dwells in, like contents in a container.
  6. Wrangler

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    If only it was written for you to see in black and white available in your native tongue for 4 centuries. For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily, Col 2:9
  7. Wrangler

    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    I sense you are setting up a trap with these questions, not asking to learn but as ammo to attack latter. The predictable "so."
  8. Wrangler

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Try the VOICE with a reference to a vessel. I used the word container. The REV is good also. 5Have this mindset in you that was also in Christ Jesus, 6who, though being in the appearance of God,c did not consider equality with God something to be grasped at,7but instead he emptied himself by...
  9. Wrangler

    I hate myself, and hate being an atheist.

    Taking it too literally. Plenty of people hate themselves. In fact, most haters primarily hate themselves. They just project it on others. I think the Bible is talking about rational people. Psychology services are at an all time high AND overwhelmed by demand.
  10. Wrangler

    I hate myself, and hate being an atheist.

    Great question! Worthy of its own thread. To not know self love and love of others is to not know the fullness of life.
  11. Wrangler

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Yea, that’s inaccurate. The Bible describes Jesus as a container where the Spirit of God dwells. Jesus emptied himself of who not what. In other words, Jesus emptied himself of God dwelling in him. The attributes of God is what God has but makes up who he is. What Jesus emptied himself of was...
  12. Wrangler

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    For some reason, you are reading the sentence as if it does not have a not in it. These 2 things are not the same: Equal Not Equal Rom 10:9 So you will be saved, if you honestly say, “Jesus is Lord,” and if you believe with all your heart that God raised him from death. In the above verse who...
  13. Wrangler

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Damn straight! These 2 things are not the same: A man selected among the people, anointed by God, to speak God's words to die as the ransom for many to be resurrected by God. God in the form of a man who appeared to die but never did or could.
  14. Wrangler

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Irrelevant. The text proves Jesus does (or did) not know it all, excluding him as God. In addition, if you are relying on Jesus’ knowledge changing over time, this is yet another proof he is NOT God, since God does not change over time.
  15. Wrangler

    CB. NEWS Live Now WHo Pandemic Treaty Conference (This is bad)

    My wife wants to add #16, helped the Vets tremendously!
  16. Wrangler

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    I agree only God knows all things. Contrary to Peter, our lord admitted he does not know the hour of his return - only God, the Father knows that. Drops mic.
  17. Wrangler

    CB. NEWS Live Now WHo Pandemic Treaty Conference (This is bad)

    I beg to differ. Trump is the greatest President since the Founding Fathers. I previously wrote a fairly exhaustive list of accomplishments. Defeated the Witch Recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Biggest tax cuts in history Cut more regulations than any other POTUS Passed more laws...
  18. Wrangler

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    You can be obtuse if you feel it helps your cause. If a set of figurative language was meant as you claim, the literal purpose would include this grand claim, e.g,. All this was written so that you’d believe Jesus is God incarnate. The absence of such proof text is the strongest argument...
  19. Wrangler

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Of course you do. It is but that is not your point at all. Your point is to introduce a segue AWAY from what a first century Greek writer meant by Logos as affirmed by his purpose statement in 20:31. If the writers thought in any way that God had literally became incarnate, they would say so...