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In addition to the clear statement that "Enoch did not see death" there is a part in Hebrews ch11 that they are overlooking.

Thank You for your reply as it was a respectable challenge.

ABSOLUTELY Brother "and to await His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead—Jesus our Deliverer from the coming wrath." 1 Thess 1:10

Everyone except Enoch Please re-examine Hebrews chapter 11 for you missed something, in addition to what i have posted, that explicitly excludes Enoch from the rest. The Holy Spirit was specific in Genesis and again in Hebrews ch11 that Enoch "did not see/experience death" he did not see...

i never alluded to earthbound Jacob being the Church. the earthbound Israel/Jacob does not change Prophecy concerning the Second Coming of Christ. Jesus finishes speaking to Israel/Jacob in Matthew 23:37-39 and Jacob will not be rescued until His Second Coming - Rom ch11 O Jerusalem...

Something to ponder.... “He who receives you receives Me, and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me. He who receives a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet’s reward. And he who receives a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man’s...

Something to ponder............ The veil of Moses covers the eyes of the Jews whereby they cannot recognize the Messiah from Scripture.

JESUS is not on Mt Zion on earth when HE descends to deliver Jacob...............

Daniel 12:1-3 At that time Michael, the great prince who stands watch over your people, will rise up. There will be a time of distress, the likes of which will not have occurred from the beginning of nations until that time. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in...

Do you believe what is written in Galatians that there is only One SEED that make up 'Abraham's Seed' = the sons of God?

The Twelve Tribes of Israel in Heaven speak of the Body of Christ. The 'specific seed' that are to be keepers of His Truth is defined in Scripture - G/John, Romans, Galatians, Ephesians, 1&2 Peter, 1 John Galatians ch3 God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham...

Who is this who comes from Edom, With dyed garments from Bozrah, This One who is glorious in His apparel, Traveling in the greatness of His strength?— “I who speak in righteousness, mighty to save.” 2Why is Your apparel red, And Your garments like one who treads in the winepress? 3“I have...

Mt Zion is in Heaven where the LORD Jesus currently is. Can you find a scripture that shows us when HE leaves Mt Zion in Heaven to descend back to earth to deliver Jacob.

Friend, if you have evidence that clearly shows = i am "WRONG" as you say, PLEASE post the scripture(s)

since i promised an open heart and mind = please allow me time to review this Thank You for posting/reply

i fully agree that Revelation runs Cyclical = repeats itself. Would you agree/consider that within it's repeating cycles there is a set Order of Unfolding/Ocurring events..............?

The Lord Jesus is using symbolism along with literal, as He does in other parts of Revelation. The question is = Who do the 144,000 represent?

It was Rev 20:7-9 that demonstrates Gog and Magog rises after the 1,000 years and exactly who they seek to attack that was all - nothing more

Where does the Deliverer come from when He is ready to deliver Jacob???

Post #16 is straight unadulterated Truth from Scripture Your explanation (Post 3) does not correlate with: a.) 1 Thessalonians b.) 2 Thessalonians c.) Gospels d.) OT Prophets = specifically Enoch, Noah, Daniel,Job and Elijah Since the Love of Christ is SUPERIOR to knowledge, i avail to you my...