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Many people think ignorant is a bad word to be called. I believe that when we welcome the idea of ignorance is when we become a disciple.

Go with that then.

Are you also a self proclaimed moderator? for real research what and who the natural branches are, it’s important. Keep in mind that not every word in scripture is spoken directly to you.

He needs to do his own homework.

I do not align myself with all who call themselves this.

It’s time to learn who the natural branches are.

I profess Christ before men.

When you guys come to see that salvation is solely an act of God, then you’ll understand there’s nothing or no one who can change that. The problem is you all seem to believe there was something within you that God saw as goo or favorable, this is a lie this is why you all contend it’s YOUR FAITH.

And again Amen! the focus should be solely on building the house of God as it was with the apostles.

Why keeping you saved.

Peace out.

Paul accredited all things to Christ, but you all accredit yourselves.

As I said self centered, not Christ centered.

The funny thing is you believe it’s you that stands and walks.

Someone has bewitched you guys.

Lol, the stronghold in the context of the scripture you’ve quoted, is exactly what this whole argument is about.

Salvation based on your efforts.

It’s a fruit of the Holy Spirit. See what Jesus told his disciples when they asked Him to increase their faith.

It’s self centered, not Christ centered.

Self generated faith. The kind that convinces you you won’t crap in your pants.