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    Without unconditional Election,no one would be saved.

    4. The answer is clearly given in Romans 8:29 -- For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. The concept of God's "foreknowledge" is in His own mind, of how He thought of the people in future...
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    Without unconditional Election,no one would be saved.

    ^ Correction: Gen. 4:17
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    Without unconditional Election,no one would be saved.

    Jun2u, The meaning of the word "knew" has many variations in the Hebrew. Keeping in line with how the word "knew" is being applied in Gen. 1:17, it is generally understood to be the act of sexual intercourse. As to what else one wants to do with the word "knew", it's quite evident from the...
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    What do you do when God doesn't answer prayer?

    Any person who is in Jesus, is righteous because of His Righteousness. Our form of righteousness is as dirty rags!
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    Without unconditional Election,no one would be saved.

    Jun2u, do you comprehend anything about HOW we are hid with Christ in God? Col. 3[3] For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. By faith in the Blood of His Sacrifice, WE ARE MADE to be Holy before God! That is how the words of Jesus are fulfilled. "Be ye holy" is not a thing to...
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    Without unconditional Election,no one would be saved.

    No, to you "I thought so". You may know all the Bible words, but you don't know "His thoughts and ways" about them. Therefore, you have no other option but to "lean unto your own understanding" . . I explained it fully when I wrote about the Blood of Christ removing sin, whereas the blood of...
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    Without unconditional Election,no one would be saved.

    Yes! Pentecost was the first time that the Holy Spirit could dwell within someone permanently.
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    Without unconditional Election,no one would be saved.

    Here is the scripture of what the good work of God is, that we are suppose to do: John 6[29] Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
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    Without unconditional Election,no one would be saved.

    Already has been shown to you, but you choose to ignore it. John 16:7-11 [7] Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. [8] And when he is come, he will reprove...
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    Without unconditional Election,no one would be saved.

    Which of the following is in line with John 3:18 and Rom. 8:9? 1. So what you are saying is, one who is chosen before the foundation of world, doesn't have to come to Jesus for God's forgiveness, and doesn't have to receive the Gift of His Eternal Holy Spirit, because they were not condemned...
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    Without unconditional Election,no one would be saved.

    ^ IOWS, you shall remain unchosen!
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    Without unconditional Election,no one would be saved.

    Read John 3:18!! Every person is physically born, being equally "condemned already". No one is predestined to be physically born, as being saved already. . All must heed the "call" to believe in Jesus! If not, then it doesn't matter what you believe about "predestination", for as long as you...
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    Without unconditional Election,no one would be saved.

    That is no evidence for your view for the false concept of the "predestination of the elect". I can take those same verses and apply it to the concept that every "condemned" person who is "converted" to Christ, and has received the Holy Spirit of God, are those people of whom Jesus shall save...
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    Without unconditional Election,no one would be saved.

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    Without unconditional Election,no one would be saved.

    Jesus died only for the elect?? Please provide that scripture .
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    Without unconditional Election,no one would be saved.

    . Correct! It is the Holy Spirit that "quickeneth" (makes one alive to God), NOT that they were elected to grace before they were born! . The Holy Spirit convicts one of their sins, and helps them to see their need for Jesus. John 16[7] Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you...
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    Without unconditional Election,no one would be saved.

    Nope! I was not there, in their putting the salvation plan together for "every man". However, as you say, you were predestined (locked in before birth) to be saved. Were you there to witness your salvation before the world was. Nope! As I, you had no such thing as a preincarnate soul. ...
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    Without unconditional Election,no one would be saved.

    EB wrote: [Only God was before the world began, and did prepare beforehand His Gift of salvation, knowing full well that Adam and Eve would fail.] AD replied: 1. Yes in the Covenant of redemption the Father gives to the Son a multitude of sinners like myself. 2a. Jesus comes to seek and save...
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    Without unconditional Election,no one would be saved.

    1. Your perspective is not God's perspective, as to what was predestined. You definitely WERE NOT predestined!! However the Gift of your salvation and mine, by God, was predestined. . Your physical life, and mine, originated by pro-creation through the seed of Adam, who had no eternal life or...
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    Without unconditional Election,no one would be saved.

    Ta-daa
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