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The put to much faith in history,. that was written BY THEM then the actual word of God

ps. I have not even started to go over the many OT prophets who says she will repent and she will be restored..at a later date

I gave you an example a week ago. You blocked it off and silly I also showed you in Lev 26 that if they disobeyed. they would be defeated. their cities cut down, their high places destroyed. and a foreigner will enjoy her land. Until she repented. If it was done (as you say) there is no need...

God did not make the covenant in Joshua 23. If you are not willing to look at the covenant given to abraham. The you have no basis to say anyone else is wrong Joshua 23 is actually answered in Lev 26, Once again, EVEN after what Joshua said happened. God said if you repent, He will remember...

I showed you this in Lev 26, the final form of discipline I also showed you what would happen if they repented (they would be restored) It has not failed. But you just proved my point. It must still be in process and not nullified. Because God said forever. with no conditions. The conditions...

Yes you are correct, Abraham was to to be the father of many nations. Many seeds. But he only gave the land promise to one seed. Which seed? The passage says, It Isaac shal your seed be (not Ishmael or the other sons) he did not give the land to anyone bu through Abraham Isaac and Jacob...

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I don’t either.. But I liked how you said we need to see what each other believes and why.. maybe could help us I used to be avid pre-trigger. Because of discussions like this. I question that belief now.. Not saying I do not believe it. Just that i question it.. so it can happen.. we can...

Then why are you unable to show this when god gave this promise to abraham first in gen 12 12 Now the Lord had said to Abram: “Get out of your country, From your family And from your father’s house, To a land that I will show you. 2 I will make you a great nation; I will bless you And make...

He did not make it with mankind. he made it with Abraham. It’s not the same covenant. I will admit, this is the first time I have heard this. But this just pushes me further away..

I appreciate your replies also. But again, I think you have the wrong premise The abrahamic covenant is divided in many parts many nations will come through you. You will be father of many nations…Is one aspect, this is true Abraham had many children who became nations he will make him a...

This is not about the covenant of redemption This is about the covenant between God and one nation. As for the promises being fulfilled When I say I give you something forever. That promise can only be fulfilled when forever ends. Ad long as forever has not ended. That promise is still...

I would agree if Lev 26 did not say the opposite. Even Daniel understood it. When he prayed a prayer of repentance in dan 9 and used Gods promise to Remember the promise and the land Please show these words “if they obeyed or cut off when they did not”in Gen 12 15 and 17 when God made the...

once again. The bible says repent and believe. Once a person has done that they are saved. Jesus told Peter 70 X 7. Did Jesus lie? And say do what he will not do?

Sorry if I took over your thread.

For salvation, I would say God still loves them, and this love is a light that leads them to him. for someone who sins against us. i would say Peter was told to forgive his brother 70 X 7 times..

Sadly I know that feeling. I think sometimes we get surprised by what someone says. And do not know how to react. Or are taken aback. And our reaction causes a reaction from the other person. Then its like an atomic bomb, it just exponentially escalates to an all out war. I am guilty myself. Of...

I am hoping for a revival of some sort. In the us and the world.

Happy new year!

They forfeited USE of the land. Not the land itself. Once again, God said if they repented. He would remember his promise as I showed you in lev 26 Your placing a condition on it that was 1. Not given when he gave it to them 2. Refuted by Lev 26 when he said AFTER he removed them, If they...