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  1. mailmandan

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    When did I say that? The church I attend is not officially Baptist.
  2. mailmandan

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    LOL! Who said I was a Baptist? I actually attend a non-denominational church. In regards to your further arguments, did you not read a word I said in post # 1716?
  3. mailmandan

    Are we sealed with the Holy Spirit?

    Ephesians 1:13 - In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of...
  4. mailmandan

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    I see that you have swallowed the church of Christ sales pitch hook, line and sinker. While temporarily attending the church of Christ several years ago when I was a teenager, I remember them teaching that ONLY "their" church is the "True Church" and they quoted Romans 16:16 in an effort to...
  5. mailmandan

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Water-salvationists do tend to confuse water baptism with Spirit baptism at times which results in confusing the picture with the reality. In 1 Corinthians 12:13, we read - For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made...
  6. mailmandan

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    1 Peter 3:21 tells us that baptism now saves you, yet when Peter uses this phrase he continues in the same sentence to explain exactly what he means by it. He says that baptism now saves you-not the removal of dirt from the flesh (that is, not as an outward, physical act which washes dirt from...
  7. mailmandan

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Even Judas Iscariot looked like the 'real deal' to the remaining 11 disciples, yet Jesus said of Judas, "he is a devil." (John 6:70-71) Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him. (John 6:64) Only Jesus truly knows the heart of everyone. He knows if...
  8. mailmandan

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    There is only one baptism that places us into the body of Christ and that is Spirit baptism, not water baptism. Ephesians 4:5 - one Lord, one faith, one baptism. 1 Corinthians 12:13 - For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and...
  9. mailmandan

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    You believe "mental assent" in Jesus yet you trust in water baptism for salvation. That's not believing in Jesus. (John 3:15,16,18) That's believing in baptism. Whatever you have put your faith, belief, trust, confidence in for salvation, that's what you believe (trust, rely) in. I accept His...
  10. mailmandan

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Jesus never said whoever is not baptized will be condemned, but He did say whoever does not believe will be condemned. (Mark 16:16(b); John 3:18). So I DO believe in Jesus as the ALL- SUFFICIENT means of my salvation. You believe in your baptism for salvation and not in Jesus Christ alone for...
  11. mailmandan

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Obeying the gospel by choosing to believe the gospel (Romans 1:16; 10:16) is not disobedient salvation and seeking salvation by works is not obedience. It's UNBELIEF.
  12. mailmandan

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Its amazing how we can explain the truth to works-salvationists until we are blue in the face and they just cannot comprehend the truth AND THERE IS A REASON FOR THAT.
  13. mailmandan

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    I never said otherwise and you need to understand what James meant by faith "alone" - empty profession of faith/dead faith that remains "alone" - barren of works. That is not genuine faith but a bare profession of faith. Not to be confused with salvation through faith (rightly understood) in...
  14. mailmandan

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    No contradiction on my part and there is a difference between obeying a command in order to become saved and obeying a command after we have been saved. It just sounds like a contradiction to you because you erroneously teach salvation by works.
  15. mailmandan

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Those who teach salvation by works tend to subdivide the law and teach that we are saved by "these" works (works of obedience/good works) and just not "those" works (works of the law/ceremonial laws only). Roman Catholicism erroneously teaches the same thing and that flawed logic has also...
  16. mailmandan

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    I knew it was just a matter of time before the saved by "these" works (works of obedience/good works etc..) and just not "those" works (works of the law) card was played. Roman Catholics also play that card in a desperate effort to get around the truth.
  17. mailmandan

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Amen! SAYS-CLAIMS (key word) to faith but has no works to evidence their claim. (James 2:14) Also, faith only (per James) - empty profession of faith/dead faith that 'remains alone' - barren of works is not genuine faith but a bare profession of faith. Not to be confused with faith that...
  18. mailmandan

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    You nailed it! ;)
  19. mailmandan

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    My interpretation works just fine because we are not justified (accounted as righteous) by works. *Romans 4:2 - For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. (So here we see that Abraham was not justified "accounted as righteous" by works) 3 For what...
  20. mailmandan

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Was Abraham's faith accounted to him for righteousness before or after he offered up Isaac his son on the altar? (Genesis 15:6) Was Abraham accounted as righteous by faith or by works? (Romans 4:2-3) Not at all and your interpretation of James 2:24 is disproved by Romans 4:2-3. It doesn't...