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  1. Eternally Grateful

    Misunderstood Concepts--- Atonement

    He did not desire sacrifice. Because that sacrifice could not remove sin That was not the purpose of the law. the purpose of the law was to prepare the hearts of Israel. So when their true messiah came, they would be read for him. He desired our trust in him, Our faith in him. Our...
  2. Eternally Grateful

    Misunderstood Concepts--- Atonement

    So where does the cross come in?
  3. Eternally Grateful

    Misunderstood Concepts--- Atonement

    Yet 1. If you love conditional, you still are dead in your sin 2. You can not love unconditional unless you are first love unconditional by God (we love because he first loved us) 3. The word love here (agape) is the greatest form of love. It is unconditional. It would be the type of love that...
  4. Eternally Grateful

    Misunderstood Concepts--- Atonement

    or maybe the had the same name, which if we look at history. We see this happened a lot? To give yet one more proof Jesus was the messiah, the son of david, the rightful king If genealogies are unreliable concerning christ. The proof of who he is is lost. It is just like if the prophecies all...
  5. Eternally Grateful

    Misunderstood Concepts--- Atonement

    Again i disagree Issac was the child of the spirit. 1. He was a miracle (His mother was passed the time of childbearing) 2. He was the one promised to Abraham. 3. He was the one who through the seed, all the nations of the world would be blessed Ishmael was a child of the flesh 1. He was...
  6. Eternally Grateful

    Misunderstood Concepts--- Atonement

    Do you think the word is flawed? Just asking Geniologies were used for a purpose. The greatest purpose is Christ. We can trace his teleology to adam, But more importantly, we can trace it to David, as he was called the son of David. And will fill fill a coven at between God and David Eeven...
  7. Eternally Grateful

    Misunderstood Concepts--- Atonement

    I think you may be trying to look to deep. The man is Adam, He is the one who was given control yet he was also given responsibility. Thats why when HE fell. His sin was passed to all mankind. Even though Eve was the one who sinned first. The woman is Eve, She is the one who was given to help...
  8. Eternally Grateful

    Misunderstood Concepts--- Atonement

    They were put in order as God intended them Many believe the stories were passed down from generation to generation, and came through the flood. But whether Moses wrote. As daniel and others. What God told him to write. Or he wrote as he was led to god through the traditions and maybe book...
  9. Eternally Grateful

    Misunderstood Concepts--- Atonement

    Where they not created man and wife? God made eve as a “help meat” for adam, He made her special and different, to bring them together. so as a whole (1) they are more than the slice (singular)
  10. Eternally Grateful

    Misunderstood Concepts--- Atonement

    Is there. Or was there a better covering made, that negated the need for the Leviticus priesthood. Which as Hebrews said, could never take away sin.. because it was flawed.
  11. Eternally Grateful

    Misunderstood Concepts--- Atonement

    Ok, now I am not only getting confused but I am getting worried
  12. Eternally Grateful

    Misunderstood Concepts--- Atonement

    I think you have to go to the day of atonement to see what the covering, or blood atonement did. It did separate a thing between us and God.. Its ironic. That in doing us, He restores us to God. And the veil was torn in two.. We could now approach God where we stand..
  13. Eternally Grateful

    Misunderstood Concepts--- Atonement

    I like what you said here. And as with the ark, It has the same picture. The nakedness of adam was his soul, which was damaged or dead because of sin. God covered that nakedness with the slaughter and spilt blood of an innocent animal, and used it skin to cover the flesh of the one who...
  14. Eternally Grateful

    Romans 6:14

    I must say after reading a few responses I am confused about the op. is the op teaching sinlessnes or is the op teaching the power of sin (the law) has no power over you (it can not condemn you hence it has no power) The law does not define sin, That was not its purpose. The law was to EXPOSE...
  15. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Don’t sweat it, you have given along of great info and stuff to think on
  16. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    I thought we were talking about John 6. And trying our best t keep catholic and Protestant doctrines out of the discussion?
  17. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Like I said earlier. It is amazing when the word of God comes together It proves itself..
  18. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Amen, But my sins were hung on that cross also.. So I am just as guilty. John the baptist said behold the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world..
  19. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Sadly, I think some people forgot the topic of this thread. There could many reasons why.. They did not really read the opening topic. They came in halfway through They came in with a preconcieved notion of what the thread was about. And Or they read a lot of posts before they decided they...
  20. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Well I caught up.. some good things I saw and some worrysome things I saw. Praying we get back on topic.. What is this bread from heaven that gives everyone who eats it eternal life. This food that endures forever..