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  1. Grailhunter

    is doing sexual things with a boyfriend/girlfriend sin...

    I don't work on opinions. I work only on facts. The reason there are 30,000 Protestant denominations is because people form religions on misinterpretations and opinions. Religion is not about what ya like and what ya don't like.
  2. Grailhunter

    is doing sexual things with a boyfriend/girlfriend sin...

    Book of Tobit....2nd century.....I like it. I am not saying that the kiddushin and nisuin did not exist in the Old Testament. Part of it was in the Mosaic Law but also some of the stories. But the storyline and spirit of it all was that women were treated as property. Payment was received and...
  3. Grailhunter

    is doing sexual things with a boyfriend/girlfriend sin...

    Absolutely correct around the year 500 AD.....in accordance with the Talmud. Before that only some of this was observed as a tradition, that is why you do not see it occurring much in the storyline of the Old Testament. One of the highest profile marriages in the Old Testament, that being...
  4. Grailhunter

    is doing sexual things with a boyfriend/girlfriend sin...

    Because mandrakes contain deliriant hallucinogenic tropane alkaloids and the shape of their roots often resembles human figures, they have been associated with a variety of superstitious practices throughout history. They have long been used in magic rituals, and even today also in contemporary...
  5. Grailhunter

    is doing sexual things with a boyfriend/girlfriend sin...

    How many years do you think Jacob and Rachel and Leah and Zilpah and Bilhah were engaged in sexual relationships. Are you expecting the Bible to give a play by play report on sexual interactions? Not going to happen. A guy has four women, since there is no cultural or religious restrictions...
  6. Grailhunter

    is doing sexual things with a boyfriend/girlfriend sin...

    Interesting case, Jacob married into a family of witches. Were Rachel and Leah betrothed? No videos of Hebrew sexual activities or written restrictions in marital relations. And if you read on you will see that Laban gave his daughter handmaidens that eventfully became Jacob's wives or...
  7. Grailhunter

    is doing sexual things with a boyfriend/girlfriend sin...

    No again, but close. Not all women were betrothed before marriage. Betrothed is never defined in the Bible as a marriage. But it does have some legal ramification that put Christ's mother in an awkward position.
  8. Grailhunter

    is doing sexual things with a boyfriend/girlfriend sin...

    Here ya go, imaginative beliefs. In the Old Testament women were treated as property. I am not saying that they never had a choice but it definitely is not defined in tradition or the Mosaic Law. The requirement for consensual marriage even in Christianity did not occur until 1140 AD.
  9. Grailhunter

    is doing sexual things with a boyfriend/girlfriend sin...

    Show a scriptural regulation for this. In practice it would be in the Mosaic Law since even the food rations of wives are discussed. If we come up with beliefs about things that are not in the Bible, then the sky is the limit and we can really come up with an imaginative religion.
  10. Grailhunter

    is doing sexual things with a boyfriend/girlfriend sin...

    Well you are right. All due respect. It is called making love for a reason, married couples can love one another as they see fit. Like the Bible says....As a loving hind and a graceful doe, Let her breasts satisfy you at all times; Be exhilarated always with her love. And then kiss her feet in...
  11. Grailhunter

    is doing sexual things with a boyfriend/girlfriend sin...

    In correct. The Greek word Pornia is related to prostitution in one form or another. Which was not a negative term in the Greco-Roman culture. The Christian version of the word porneia gets a little complicated. If you noticed there was no wedding ceremony or vows in Eden. And then you can...
  12. Grailhunter

    is doing sexual things with a boyfriend/girlfriend sin...

    No just no. First off the familiar Christian buzzword fornication is not actually in the scriptures. The word comes out of the Latin and retrofitted into Christian Bibles. Secondly, there is no requirement anywhere....Old or New Testament for wedding ceremonies or vows. If a couple meet and...
  13. Grailhunter

    is doing sexual things with a boyfriend/girlfriend sin...

    Just no. Away of thinking. The scripture does not define if the woman is married or you are married. It is a good scripture to warn against salivating over women. At the beach you could get a kink in your neck or put you in the dog house if your wife is with you. We are not animals....but you...
  14. Grailhunter

    Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

    Women's too! Christianity is not a stupid religion that teaches it all has to be stupid and never use your head. You have to use your head to read the Bible. Do you read the words and consider what the words mean? Well that is human logic and reasoning....God made it that way. If not the Bible...
  15. Grailhunter

    Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

    Ya they come in different forms.
  16. Grailhunter

    Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

    Ok, here we go. again Beliefs, Truths, Facts. I run into this so often. Everything is a grey area.....all scriptures are a matter of interpretation.....there are no solid truths in the scriptures! It is all a matter of interpretation, opinion, and personal beliefs! This is truly a reflection...
  17. Grailhunter

    Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

    I say this with a certain amount of humor....some truth. LOL A brain teaser! Is this a slippery sloop? LOL True in fact, but bad in practice. Again the topic of Beliefs....Truths....Facts Which I have explained. Absolute truths and Ultimate truths fall into the category of facts. Facts can be...
  18. Grailhunter

    A NEW TAKE ON AN OLD DEBATE.

    Talk about Precious Moments. And some do not share those precious moments. And that is a question; Should they? Can we blame them for not sharing? Whether it be speaking in tongues, or watching those that speak in tongues, or having one of them speak about you, or feeling the warmth of the Holy...
  19. Grailhunter

    What are some of your weaknesses?

    No but I have a thing for the women that do!