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When Christ is on earth, the Church will be with Him. When He is in Heaven, the Church will be with Him. I would have you believe it and believe John 14:1-3. Just as John 14:1-3 occurs at a time known to God, until that time we remain in the world enduring the hatred of the world. Stranger

Could you give the quote from Walvoord and where it is located? We who hold to the rapture know we will face trials and testings. We believe that we will not face the Tribulation. Marcus O'Rellius makes a good point. Seems that those who want to do away with the rapture also don't want us...

The church in the wilderness was Israel. Not the Body or Church of Christ. Stranger

The main reason for the Church to be in Heaven is to be with Christ. John 17:24 " Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world." You say I have...

Jesus did away with the Law at the cross. The veil in the temple was rent from top to bottom showing it was God who did away with the Law. Matt.27:51 " And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom;" At that point, no one is under law. 2Cor. 3:7 " But if...

What does that matter? Of course God had a reason. Just like He has a reason for rapturing the Church. He raptured them, Enoch and Elijah, and He can and will rapture the Church. John 14:1-3 does say we are taken to Heaven. Where did Christ go? He went to Heaven to build in His Fathers...

Though 'Church' is often times referring to buildings in the English language, I and most Christians I know, know that it comes from the word 'ekklesia' which speaks to the called out ones and not a building. But again you evade the question. Why is Christ building His 'ekklesia' or 'church'...

You bet they are different. They were taken to heaven before dying. You might say they were 'raptured'. But you don't have to. And what of the promise in John 14:2-3? That is a promise that Christ will return and take His people to Himself in Heaven where He is. The point you were making...

That wasn't what I asked. I asked, when did Israel quit being Israel? In Hosea 1:6-9 God says He will scatter Israel in judgement and will not be their God. " ...for I will no more have mercy upon the house of Israel; but I will utterly take them away...for ye are not my people, and I...

So, when did Israel quit being Israel? And if the Church is Israel, why even call it the Church? Stranger

keras I see. You're one of those. You have a prescribed set of Scripture to defend what you want to say. And you spit it out irregardless of what questions were asked of you? Why? Because you can't answer the questions. So why don't you just respond to my reply #40 instead of just...

The Jews were not under the Law at this time. And, though written to the believers of the scattered Jews, the book of James is Christian. And the epistle is important for Christians, Jew or Gentile. To say as you do that it is only for the Jews because it is written to the scattered 12...

Enoch didn't die first. Hebrews 11:5 "By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God translated him:..." Elijah didn't die first. 2 Kings 2:1 " And it came to pass, when the LORD would take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind,...."...

Why is that? I'm sure you believe the verses that are used by me to prove the rapture. You would just interpret them differently. Stranger

keras Where do I want to be? I want to be where He is, doing whatever He wants. I want to be in the place He has prepared for me. John 14:2-3 "In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place...

Sounds good. Stranger

The apocryphal books were never considered by the KJV as part of the canon. In early Protestant Bibles they were placed in a section of their own and labeled as not being fit to establish doctrine but could be read. Jerome always stated that the apocrypha were not canonical. When was his...

You are mixing canonization with translation. And I did answer you. The authoritative Scripture contain 66 books. Thirty Nine in the Old. Twenty Seven in the New. I like the KJV. I think it is the best version. But there are other versions of the 66 books of the Bible. But that is...

You sure seem hard on poor old Noah. Stranger

I appreciate it. It is important to me that we understand the Bible I have is inspired by God. The KJV is not attempting to prove the Canon. It is simply translating the Canon. Show me the books of the Pharisees and Sadducees and how they differed from traditional Jews of that era. It...