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  1. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Like I said, I pray you are right.. because it scares the you know what out of me when they say they hope and pray they here God tell them depart from him for he never knew them. now he may see somethign in that passage different.. But when you take a passage out of context.. does it not...
  2. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Prove I have twisted any of it I am tired of you saying you’re open to discuss then you limit the conversation to what you want to discuss. But will not discuss the rest of it.
  3. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Its funny how I have made this same argument to you for many a month now.. Yet you deny it is what we shoudl use as our guide. I did search all scripture. I have been porting passage after passage after passage in this very thread to you which prove what I am saying is true Yet you say I limit...
  4. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Just proof that you have not read John 6. John 6: 28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
  5. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Oh I agree but it worries me that he looks for too much and does nto get what it actually says.. The bread jesus spoke of in John 6 is as he said the words of eternal life. Which was given by the spirit the bread spoken of by many churches is the bread of the last supper. Which is only to...
  6. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    What verse? We are discussing about 42 verses in John 6
  7. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Once again my friend I am here discussing what saves us, what gives us eternal life. It has nothing to do with what happens after we are saved, or what we need to learn after we are saved. This is what I am discussing.. Do you agree with me about the way to salvation or not.
  8. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    No, I want you to focus on the word. All of it we are just discussing John, because 6 straight chapters jesus said if we believe in him and recieve him, we will never perish and have eternal life But your focused on eat my flesh and drink my blood. shaking my head in sorrow
  9. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Belief is the work of God amazing, Jesus said this very thing in John 6 in the passage we are discussing. When a person is drowning and they place their faith in the one sent to rescue them, and allow them to do the work did they save themselves? Or were they saved by the grace of the one who...
  10. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    So you believe that when we trust God and Recieve his salvation. We are saved forever? If you believe this, I apologize. Because I can not remember one time you said anything like this. But I am not to proud to admit I may be wrong and in this case. Me being wrong would be a praise to God...
  11. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Please show me in John 1, John 3, John 4 John 5 nd John 6 where we are told to be baptised to get eternal life. You want to replace the baptism of God with the baptism of men.. feel free.. Jesus warned you against attributing the work of God to men.
  12. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Whatever, This just shows you have not read a thing I said. If you did, you would see the actual 115 verses I spoke of. All of which said prety much the same thing. But I guess you have to hide from it. Because if you look. You may find out I am right.
  13. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    If this helps you to convince yourself that you are correct. Feel free.. I expect this from people who do not want to discuss real things..
  14. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Lol Scripture does teach that. But it teaches that to people who CLAIM to have faith but had no works. Zero zip nada. In other words, they have no evidence of faith. Why? Their Faith is dead.. Were they saved, or course not. Why? They did nto believe Jesus taught in John 1, It is those who...
  15. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    If I am wrong, VJ will correct me I have spoken to him many times over the subject of salvation. He appears to follow people like epi. Who think the transference to the kingdom is how we walk, they God removing our ability to sin is what makes us right with God and allows us to enter heaven...
  16. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Thats not what Jesus said He said depart from me for I NEVER KNEW YOU. He said it twice. Both times in his discussion to enter the narrow gate. And said few there will be who enter it so because of this, there will be many on that day say did I not do all these great works in your name (a...
  17. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    How do you know no one taught it before? You have not listened to a work I said that is quite clear. ROME ruled the world. It DESTROYED ANY EVIDENCE that engine taught anythign they thought to be heretical. The rulers of the world write the history fort the time they ruled Do you think Rome...
  18. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    How? By being born again, Received into the family of God. And let the curse placed on Jesus in your place remove you from the curse of being told depart from me for I never knew you If you do this, You will never be at that judgment where you have to call out how hard you worked in Jesus...
  19. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    No You ADD things to that I do not put restrictions on it, THAT is nonsense. What is nonsense is you can do one work that will cause God to forgive one sin to let you into heaven That is restrictive, because it restricts you from seeing the truth
  20. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Listen to his words He is saying the bread is not important.. The bread is harmless when someone tells you the bread is not what it really is.. but it is the most important doctrine you will ever Receive because without the bread of life. Yu have no hope