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  1. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    If tradition and history states that 2 + 2 = 5. Then we must ignore tradition and history..
  2. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Jesus flesh endures forever if you keep eating it, you mock him.
  3. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    If his body is the food which endures forever. then once we eat it. We will never die. As he promised The only reason we would need to keep eating it. Is because it does not endure forever. He did not show us how to eat that food. get off that nonsense 1. He said the same thing in John 1...
  4. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    thank you Not the food Jesus gave, he said it will endure forever. If you need to go to outside verses to understand what Jesus said in John 6 you do not understand what he said As i said. I can go outside too. And prove John 6 is saying what I think it says.. but I would rather just stick...
  5. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Where does it say in John 6 about rejecting what Jesus tells you to do? And how can this be food that endures forever. By your own confession here. You claim that food can and does die.
  6. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    What is food that endures forever. Can you give me your defenition
  7. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Ok, He asked THE 12 are you saying out of 5000 plus people. Only the 12 stayed? what does that say about Christ?
  8. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Lol Peter proved they did not take him literally if they did, he said we will eat your flesh and blood. He did not. He said you have the words.. Which is exactly what Jesus said this food which endures forever is He words will end or forever. They will never return back void. When he says it...
  9. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    No I said the people who took him literally left. Those who did not stayed. Who said it was only the 12 who styated? I did not. Did John say it? No.. so again you assume
  10. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    No He said whoever comes to me will NEVER hunger and NEVER thirst He said whoever comes to him will NEVER be cast out He said whoever eats the bread and believes in him WILL NEVER die. And WILL be raised on the last day he said whoever eats and drinks his flesh and blood HAS ETERNAL life...
  11. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Why did they walk away? Did they think Jesus had the words of eternal life? oh and by the way. They said so in the previous passage 52 The Jews therefore quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this Man give us His flesh to eat?” That PROVES they took him literally!!!
  12. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    I have explained it a few times now But as usually. You are hard of hearing. Unless you hear what YOU WANT TO HEAR. You will not listen. Your proving my point
  13. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    lol. Why did you say stop believing, where in John 6 did he say we would only never die if we keep on believing. And if we stopped we would lose it. I just answered your question and comment with the truth..
  14. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Eternal means forever, never ending, without end conditional means there are conditions applied If I say you will never die and you have eternal life then tell you there are condictions for you to keep, if you want to live forever and have eternal life then I have contradicted myself. And I...
  15. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Your wearing me out mary Where in this passage did ANY of the decsciples say they took him literally? What did peter say? YOU HAVE THE WORDS OF ETERNAL LIFE. What did Jesus say was the real thing that gave life? 63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that...
  16. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    All you said in vs 32 is that we have to keep on eating and keep on drinking. If that is your answer. Then Jesus lied in the verses your trying to defend agrees with you He did not say this is the passage he said whoever COMES TO ME will never hunger or thirst. He did not say they will never...
  17. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    You did not answer my question what does the term ENDURES FOREVER MEAN. If you can not answer. That is fine. The rest of your post does not answer the question. And you go back to history. this thread is about what Jesus said. Not what the rulers of this world wrote down for 1500 years. Can...
  18. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Take my time? Thats not hard. read the rest of john 6. He did not talk about literal flesh and blood. And more than he is in the part of the passage your talking about. He explained what he meant in the passage. And it was NOT his literal flesh and blood You want to discuss this. Break my...
  19. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    my point was in what you said, He lost none (i assume by what you said he meant non of the 5000) its confusing because while they ate the food and were fed. They were mostly unbelievers. Their unbelief just had not been exposed. It would be the next day when it would be exposed and they would...
  20. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 and the bread from heaven

    Here is where it can get a little confusing the people he fed (5000 men, when we add in their wives and possibly children, it was far more than 5000) These are the same people who come to Jesus the next day. Most of these people did not believe, and when all was said and done. Only a few were...