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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    It's not up to you to decide who is thinking rationally and objective or not. LOL. Who do you think you're kidding with this nonsense? Why can't you just be honest? Why is that so hard for you? I don't. Do you? LOL. He cared enough to put in his input and I cared enough to say it's not his...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof Christ will not leave the Father's side for 1000 year separation to reign on this earth

    You must have forgotten how to read. I'm talking about His body, not His Spirit. Are we waiting for the second BODILY coming of Christ or the second Spiritual coming of Christ?
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Why did you say "no gap" when you do believe there is a gap after the middle of the 70th week?
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof Christ will not leave the Father's side for 1000 year separation to reign on this earth

    What are you talking about? Is Jesus bodily everywhere at all times? No. He is coming again bodily, so He will bodily leave heaven when that time comes. Why are you (seemingly) not differentiating between His deity and His humanity?
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    You add a gap between the middle of the 70th week and the second half of the 70th week.
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Right. A 490 year time period was given during which all of the things described in Daniel 9;24 had to be fulfilled and during which the covenant referenced in Daniel 9:27 had to be confirmed. There is no basis whatsoever for inserting a gap of time within the 490 years anywhere.
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Babylon

    I don't see any reason to see the great city Babylon as referring to a literal, earthly city any more than I think we should understand Babylon as being a literal woman/prostitute even though it is also described that way. I see it as the exact spiritual opposite of the holy city, the new...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    This comment illustrates your lack of attention to detail when it comes to how you look at scripture. While it's true that Jesus is the light of the world (John 8:12), I am sure you were thinking of the following verse when you made that comment. John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Do you understand that the Father and Son do not sit on literal thrones? Scripture says that heaven itself is God's throne. Isaiah 66:1 This is what the Lord says: Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. Where is the house you will build for me? Where will my resting place be? Are...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    Exactly. How can the day of the Lord refer to "an era of time" when Paul clearly said that upon its unexpected arrival as a thief in the night it will bring "sudden destruction" from which unbelievers "shall not escape" (1 Thess 5:2-3)? How does a sudden event turn into an era of time (1,000+...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    This is not true. Yes, we allow the NT to shed light on the OT whenever possible because that's a wise thing to do. Who can deny that? Do you not ever do that? But, you act as if we Amils completely ignore the OT. No, we do not. We just make sure that our understanding of it doesn't contradict...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    There are several passages in the NT which do not indicate any mortal, unbelieving survivors of Christ's return (Matthew 24:35-39, Luke 17:26-37, 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3, 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, 2 Peter 3:7,10-12, Revelation 19:17-18) but somehow Zechariah 14 trumps them all? Why wouldn't you...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    This is utter nonsense. The day of the Lord and the day of Christ are used synonymously and interchangeably in scripture. 1 Corinthians 1:7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ: 8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Agree. But, how do we get someone like her, who thinks that the kingdom of God is a different kingdom than the kingdom of heaven and that the day of the Lord, the day of God and the day of Christ are all different days, to understand any of these things? It's virtually impossible.
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Who said any of that is part of His kingdom? No one. I know we will inherit the kingdom of God in its fullness bodily when Jesus returns, but do you not think you are in God's kingdom now spiritually? Have you not been born again? John 3:3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Excellent. Well said. The person whose argument you are refuting (destroying) clearly only skims the surface of scripture rather than actually making the effort to dig deeper to find the truth as you clearly have done. It's sad that someone can deny all the mountains of evidence that you are...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Are you saying that you think Jesus was wrong to quote Zechariah 12:10 in relation to those who literally looked upon Him when He was pierced? If not, then why are you applying the verse to a different time than Jesus Himself did? I will not bother saying any more since I know you will just...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Do you actually think I would say yes to this silly question? I don't think you read what I say very carefully because in no way, shape or form did I say we give God assurance and conviction. You are not understanding at all what Hebrews 11:1 is saying. Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is confidence in...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    You don't understand what that means. You do not look at ALL of scripture to form your doctrine. You just cherry pick scripture instead. Yet, it's true that it is entirely up to God to decide who He will have mercy on and who He will harden. But, that's not the end of the story! Romans...