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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Do you believe the lie?

    LOL. You have some nerve accusing me of playing games when that is clearly what you are doing. Philippians 2:5-8 shows that, but instead of accepting that, you are playing games and asking me for a single verse which says that. What a joke. John 1 also shows that He is the Word and the Word is...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Do you believe the lie?

    You are the one who keeps making comments that I'm playing games and acting like I'm being dishonest, but I'm not. Don't act like you are innocent here.
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Do you believe the lie?

    Resistance to what? I'm not the one denying clear, straightforward scripture. You are. You want to avoid the clear, straightforward scripture at all costs. Not surprising. I can't take you seriously. If you can't even discern clear, straightforward scripture which says Jesus is God and created...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Do you believe the lie?

    As man, He was born of a virgin, but God He was not created. As long as you fail to differentiate between His deity and His humanity, you will not get it. You are deceived. Why is it that you can't accept that He could be both God and man at the same time?
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Do you believe the lie?

    Who are you trying to fool with your nonsense? You can't fool me. Holding my position out of fear? LOL!!! You are delusional. Philippians 2:5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Do you believe the lie?

    Total nonsense. Paul wrote that Jesus Christ is in His very nature God, but did not want to use His equality with God to His advantage while He was on the earth because He had a mission to die on the cross for the sins of the world. You do not accept what Paul wrote in Philippians 2:5-8 about...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Do you believe the lie?

    I wasn't just concerned about me making things personal, but I know how, in the past, you have taken offense to things and have taken things personally. So, I would like to avoid that if we can. We clearly are likely to never agree about this, so what is the point in continuing to repeat...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Do you believe the lie?

    LOL. Did you not even read what I said? I'll post it again... I said right here that I was honestly assuming things about what you said and I told you why. I was saying it was an honest mistake to assume that you believe the verses about Jesus being God are mistranslated because that is exactly...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Do you believe the lie?

    Yes, you were right that Peter didn't even mention Judas's name there, which is similar to Jesus referring to Judas but not by name here: John 17:12 While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Do you believe the lie?

    There are many passages which clearly indicate that Jesus is God, so I was not being dishonest to assume that means you must think those verses are mistranslated. That is what others here who deny that Jesus is God claim, so I figured you probably do the same. Nothing but word salads, twisting...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Do you believe the lie?

    Peter isn't speaking in John 1:18, so did you mean some other verse?
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Do you believe the lie?

    As if I'm not also doing that? Look here. The difference between us is not that you are looking at all of this closer than I am. No. We are both trying to look at all of it very thoroughly, but we still disagree. So be it. Accept it. I don't want to talk about this any further or else things...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Do you believe the lie?

    Why is the word "if" in there then? You are trying to say it's unconditional, but the verse itself does not.
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Do you believe the lie?

    Many verses in our English translations clearly show that Jesus is God, so I assume you think they are mistranslated. So, you think they are translated correctly and you just don't accept what they say? You continue to not understand that Jesus is both God and man at the same time. As the God...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Do you believe the lie?

    His exhortations are part of the truth he has written. His exhortations are in relation to us continuing to keep our faith until the very end so that we don't end up turning away from the living God. That's what passages like Hebrews 3:12-14 indicate. We are responsible to continue to have that...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Do you believe the lie?

    How does what you're saying fit with the warnings given in the 2 verses preceding it? I don't see you looking at that verse in context. I believe it is clearly saying, in relation to those who have confidence in the first place, that they must continue having that confidence until the very end...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Do you believe the lie?

    From Thayer's Greek Lexicon:
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Do you believe the lie?

    Oh, please. Give me a break. I surrender nothing by saying that. Stop the nonsense. I don't need this from someone who thinks that many verses in our English translations are mistranslated. Why do you even reference our English translations at all when you think so many verses in them are...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Do you believe the lie?

    Right. That includes passages like Hebrews 3:12-14, Hebrews 6:4-6, Hebrews 10:26-27 and Romans 11:20-22. Hebrews 3:12 See to it, brothers and sisters, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God. 13 But encourage one another daily, as long as it is...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Do you believe the lie?

    Why are you referring to "this house" and "that house" there as if you are talking about two different houses? That's not comparable to what Jesus said. He talked about someone abiding in Him or not abiding in Him. Your analogy would suggest that He talked about someone abiding in Him, but not...