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does he do that against their will. Or through their will?

Not against their free will..

yes, if my family believes, they too will be saved

Have you read romans 4? 4 What then shall we say that Abraham our father has found according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was [b]accounted to him...

It would not appear anything, It has nothing to do with the new covenant or the new testament. the new testament is about the salvation of the world. Not restoring Israel to her land. why would I need to worry about that? Matthew 26:28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed...

So the abrahamic covenant is still in effect. Thank you.. so if that is still in effect. should not ALL of that covenant still be in effect?

Concerning this? No concerning the national covenant between God and the nation of Israel. I disagree with you 100 % Nice try though Who said anything about circumcision. Once again, When does everlasting end? The abrahamic covenant is an everlasting covenant between God and abraham, Which...

I would HOPE beyond belief he would appear to my child so they would believe My flesh would want him to violate there free will, But I would not expect him to. If they still say no. thats on them, But I know he will do whatever he can to convince them..

Gen 12: 3b And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.” Has this ended? or is it still in effect? and when it says in you, what in Abraham caused the blessing to appear to all the families of the earth so they could be blessed?

So your admitting you falsly accused me> When does either end? Did God tell Abraham when it would end?

All the time,

Please show me when I ever disagreed Please show me when I ever disagreed You did not answer my question. Please tell me when forever ended.

thats ok, It is found in the word.

Please show me where I have said it was in Israel. Just one post. Please show where where i ignored the word ALL.. while your at it. Please tell me when "forever" ended..

I have not denied it It is a new will and testiment why do you refuse to acknowledge it is also the fufillment of the covenant made to abraham, In you (christ) Those passages refere to the promise of salvation to all no matter what hey are. Through the testament and blood of Christ. But I...

You do need to defend your false accusations. And your refusal to show where i erred.. Scripture does not help you there. Why are you so unwilling to show where I was wrong in what I posted. Why are you so unwilling to acknowledge I answered your question concerning the covenant of Abraham...

You still can not show me where I have erred. Now you have resorted to blame shifting I answered the question in the post you refuse to acknowledge. Why should I keep answering the same question over and over, when you and @Fullness of the Gentiles refuse to acknowledge I answered it, and then...

No that is not true. Paul mentions Abraham, there was no law when abraham believed God and it was credited to him as rightiousness A work is something done to earn a wage or reward. It does not matter what that particular work is. That is the defenition. Another definition Paul gave twice is...

Sorry my friend Paul did not point to any of those as a means to stay saved., If he did he would contradict himself If your trying to say men must keep themselves saved by those things, Your not helping the church, your keeping people away from God.

No, Actually it is what kills the flesh. And keeps our mind focused on self and not God. NOSAS requires us to continually look at self to see if we are ok.. To make sure we are doing the right stuff. To make sure we are following whatever law we follow. It does not allow us to seek after the...