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So again, you teach conditional life. Not eternal Jesus said you will never die.. You said that is not true. So Jesus lied..

No you have not..The fact you can not see it is bothersome

Really? Jesus said we will never die. You say we can still die Jesus said we have eternal life, You say we may not have eternal life Paul said we are saved by Grace through faith not work. You say we are saved by grace through faith plus works.

Well of course not. You have made it know you are right and everyone who disagrees with you is wrong. You have made that known in this chatroom and the other chatroom. I do not expect to change your mind, I am here to warn others.. You say we are wrong. Yet you can not break down the passage...

But you do not agree with the passage, if you did, you would not contradict it. Your just hiding my friend..

The thought that one can truly repent, and become like the tax collector. Bankrupt in spirit. And call out to God and be saved. And Jesus said he went hime justified. But if he falls back into sin again he will lose that salvation is nothing but a back door to the law. It’s nonsensical for one...

The difference between righteousness and holiness the term righteous means without fault or error. it means we are in right standing. It means we are innocent of wrong doing the word holy literally means to be set apart.

Amen for one, You can not witness or see someone dieting spiritually.. You can only see if they died physically If I see someone get drunk, and get behind the wheel of a car and wrap it around a tree and they die. I have seen someone commit a sin that led to death

What would happen if we were all born perfect. Alive in christ, as Adam was created. God would not need his justice, because we have not sinned.. Yet what would happen if we sinned in this state? Could Gods love help us?

What if faith never comes for a person.. are they freed from the Gaurdian, or are they still under it?

Do you understand why?

Yet you can not refute any passage I have given, or explain it to us. you need to ask yourself why

No you do not understand what salvation is Jesus did not die to free us from the slaver of sin. He died as the lamb of God to take the penalty of sin. and your right, Paul did not lie. But your belief makes him out to be a liar. once again, you refuse to look at the passage. its ok, i know...

As paul said, the law was a schoolmaster to lead us to christ.

you did that when you sinned.

As long as this thread has gone. I am suprised people even respond anymore

Its good because it kills. it leads us to christ. apart from the law. We would not know we were sinners. And would not know what the price of redemption is..

John said one born of God cannot live in sin whoever sins has never known or seen him so again, You make people out to be liars.

You have a weird way of looking at things If you were on death row. And I offered to die in your place. That offer would be a gift. if You say no thank you I will not die, I will save myself.. then you have rejected his gift. And you will suffer your fate..

But we do not have it, if we did, everyone would be saved, and the church would not have to spread the gospel. You most certainly can. God does not remove free will No. God paid the price for salvation, but we can refuse it. Its against the word he who believes is not condemned, he who does...