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thank you for your kind thoughts.

the word 'therefore' references something said preceding it. One could also say, 'because of'

Concerning myself as to what others think to a third party holds no value.

I think he was extending forgiveness to and for all and sundry. This blows me away!

I would rather think of Jesus and his self sacrificing, self giving approach. It gives me a wonderful picture of how God is. It gives me hope. I know the approach of men, even that of my own.....quick to judge, quick to justify self, quick to alienate others, quick to force their hand in some...

I hear you A. I'm in the jungle of North Eastern Australia. Internet is sketchy often

There is a difference between recognising false doctrine and diminishing those who hold it. I think of those men murdering Jesus and how he responded. It puts me to shame.

g'day Avagabond, There is only one deliverer and it aint us. The Good News declares us acceptable in the beloved....without spot or wrinkle,....not in ourselves.

The gospel goes to all, even those whose ideas are skewed and messed up....and who can claim exemption from that? It is not warranted to belittle or out others because they have views which conflict with our own. God will sort that out in his time.

Repent and believe me without question! :D:p

so there you have it, post.....folk disagree with you and you call them nutso's creeping...hmmm

hmmmm, marks, I think your proposal does not hold water.

hmmmm, I see cognitive dissonance is your bedfellow! check mate! o_O

yes, I understand these events are attributed to God, so tell me, how do you reconcile the God you are defending in your posts with a self sacrificing God revealed in Jesus.....one who says, 'I am the same yesterday, today and forever.'...and, 'I do not change'?

Not if you interpret him through the lens of Jesus. If you interpret him through any other lens you have aligned yourself with the rebellion which justifies it.

I see your view as a fantasy ....I don't buy it.

lol...physical he lived nearly another 1000 yrs though diminishing. I see you have some other take marks....do you want to spill it?

Did he really drown them?...hmmmm The culprit has been clever enough to hide himself....even in the Bible....and make it appear as if God is to blame. I suggest there is more to the story than surfaces at first glance.

being abused.

condescension never fails to shoot itself in the foot!