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  1. Marymog

    What distinguishes a "Protestant?"

    Many of the reformers like John Calvin and Ulrich Zwingli were not averse to using state powers to enforce Christian rules (Shelley, 2013, pp. 258 – 271). There are three main eras that can be highlighted when looking historically at where the church and the state play unique roles. One...
  2. Marymog

    Why isn't the shroud of turin in the bible

    You said the "evidence is in you". What is that evidence?
  3. Marymog

    Why isn't the shroud of turin in the bible

    Oh goodness......Your killing me. Your said your faith came from reading Scripture. What in Scripture provided you the EVIDENCE that Jesus was who he said he was? Do you believe he is the Son of God just because he said "I AM"? A lot of men have said the same thing. Why don't you believe...
  4. Marymog

    Why isn't the shroud of turin in the bible

    No, I don't think you did answer me. I asked what evidence did Jesus provide to compel YOU to follow and BELIEVE in him? You NEVER gave the evidence. Your response included a scripture passage about having faith by hearing. Also how Peter believed Him. Peter would not have died for his belief...
  5. Marymog

    Why isn't the shroud of turin in the bible

    OK....A lot of words that don't make sense to me AND I can't find the answer to my questions. In summary it seems to me you are saying if Jesus hadn't performed all of the miracles and raised from the dead (he was just a man of words) you would still believe he was the Son of God? Mary
  6. Marymog

    Why isn't the shroud of turin in the bible

    Hmmmm......here are the questions I asked: What evidence did Jesus provide to compel you to follow and BELIEVE in him? Without the miracles He performed, would you still follow him? They don't seem that deep to me. Your inabillaty to answer them suggest to me that you are not prepared to give...
  7. Marymog

    Why isn't the shroud of turin in the bible

    I find it interesting that you were unable to learn anything from a Church that has been teaching basically the same thing for 2,000 years and then you move on to a Church (Lutheran) that has been around for 500 years only to leave it for another Church (assemblies of God) that has only been...
  8. Marymog

    Why isn't the shroud of turin in the bible

    The STURP scientist said "no pigments, paints, dyes or stains have been found on the fibrils" of the Shroud. It is as if the image is in the fabric, not on it. Also, the earliest known record of the shroud appears on a commemorative medallion known as the Pilgrim's Medallion and that medallion...
  9. Marymog

    Why isn't the shroud of turin in the bible

    I do not think you are downplaying His miracles. I believe the opposite. You are not giving miracles the credit they deserve. It was the MIRACLES that brought people to believe he was who he said he was....the Son of God. Without the miracles they would have walked away. I never said that you...
  10. Marymog

    Who is the Whore of babylon

    Fascinating.....I truly don't know what to say. How can someone be figuratively born again? Either you are or you aren't born again.... How can a symbol be holy???? When something/someone is Holy it becomes more than just a symbol. Your theory makes no sense...... Mary
  11. Marymog

    Why isn't the shroud of turin in the bible

    Thank you for your time Nancy. The day of Pentecost was 40 days after the resurrection. Peter had already seen Jesus alive/risen from the dead. In Peters speech on the day of Pentecost he told the people of Isreal that Jesus fulfilled the prophecy of Joel. Peter went on to say, Jesus of...
  12. Marymog

    Who is the Whore of babylon

    What you are saying makes no sense to me. In this spirit the born again are not sinners???? I don't understand. :( Please quote anything vile I have said....I look forward to your response. If you are unable to you owe me an apology. That's what Christians do.... Mary
  13. Marymog

    Why isn't the shroud of turin in the bible

    In general, Buddha (and others) said a lot of philosophical, inspiring words to live by just like Jesus did. It was His miracles that separated Him from the rest. It was prophesized that Jesus would perform miracles. That was ONE of the ways we would know he is the Lord. If we take away his...
  14. Marymog

    Who is the Whore of babylon

    Please quote anything vile I have said....I look forward to your response. The born again are not sinners up unto the point of death? Is that what you are saying?? Mary
  15. Marymog

    Why isn't the shroud of turin in the bible

    Peter's behavior/demeanor changed AFTER the resurrection because he witnessed the miracle of Jesus risen body. If Jesus hadn't risen and appeared to them he would have still been a coward. Paul experienced the MIRACLE of going blind and seeing/speaking to Jesus. He also witnessed the miracles...
  16. Marymog

    Who is the Whore of babylon

    Why are you so vile? Are we not all sinners up unto the point of our death? Curious Mary
  17. Marymog

    MATTHEW 3:11 BAPTISMS

    I think I see what you are saying. Baptism by fire are the trials and testing of His disciples?
  18. Marymog

    MATTHEW 3:11 BAPTISMS

    MATTHEW 3:11....isn't that what this thread is about???
  19. Marymog

    MATTHEW 3:11 BAPTISMS

    EDIT: The context of which verse? Mary
  20. Marymog

    MATTHEW 3:11 BAPTISMS

    Baptism = Jesus work/sacrifice on the cross? Is that what you are saying? Mary