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@Rudometkin It's good to avoid what may be ultimately the circular reasoning of human wisdom.

@Rudometkin It's interesting that in John 6 for example we see evidence of both Divine sovereignty and human responsibility in one verse, 37: "All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out."

@VictoryinJesus More, great verses there...

It's official; @Naomi25 is - almost - feeling sorry for tattooists... :)

@Naomi25 In the end it's about seeing a pattern in Scripture, diligently studied, rather than projecting a system onto Scripture...right? :)

@Mayflower Good photo! thought it was maybe a brooch to wear or even one of a pair of big earrings, etc.

@VictoryinJesus The burning bush is a symbol that Presbyterians historically have used... The spiritual power of God is I reckon thereby implied...

@Rudometkin Well, the Psalms are often poetic in form... :)

@VictoryinJesus Interesting observations! Your posts are very well thought out! :)

Hi @VictoryinJesus On the subject of tribulation, I love to be reminded of John 16.33: "In the world ye shall have tribulation; but be of good cheer: I have overcome the world." :)

Thanks for all the Psalm contribs., ppl! keep them coming... :)

@Rudometkin Oh I'm sure there overwhelming Scripture evidence for the second option there.... (Especially when one considers the strife and discontent of the human heart, naturally speaking...)

@Rudometkin Yes, I guess I did mean this; and thanks for the answer... :) Sometimes a faith based tattoo can be a slowly maturing conviction that ultimately leads to the ink event; this seems to have been MetalMike's experience: MetalMike said: ↑ For others, it seems to be more of a...

I am reminded - by the title of the thread - of Psalm 73:17: "Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end."

@Waiting on him Well, in a totally different context, I've heard a similar expression about trying to talk to JWs....