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Thank you for the kind greeting. It is refreshing. :rolleyes: It is important to put ALL of scripture in context in the matter at hand. I will attempt to do this in as few words as possible. Matthew 3 Jesus is baptized in water. Acts 8 the eunuch is baptized in water. Romans 6 says, "Don’t...

Now, now. Let's not ignore your Christian history and what I have already stated as fact: We KNOW thru early Christian writings, specifically the Diache (70-80AD), which was written before the book of Revelations, that immersion ONLY was not used. The 70-80AD writing is a few years before your...

Her "hate" (you know what's in her heart?) of the Catholic Church and any lie she tells doesn't make you right in HOW you say things. :) Let God deal with her "hate" and "lies". You just do what you do best. Expose their lies and false beliefs about The Church....let God do the rest. Mother Mary

I believe you when you say you don't know the writings of those men. Your ignorance of Christian history, the men of the shoulders you stand on who gave their lives for our faith and your ignorance of 2,000 years of Christian teaching is noted and documented. Not only are you to embarrassed to...

Lol....OK Scott. You don't know the writings of any of "those people"? Even Martin Luther? Seriously? I don't understand why you feel the need to be dishonest right now. I have mentioned these great men to you before so to play dumb is dumb. You know the writings of men who you are quoting but...

You only partially quoted 1 Corinthians 4:15. You left out "yet have ye not many fathers:" What is Paul talking about when he refers to "many fathers"? So you don't think Jesus is demonstrably using hyperbole when he says not to call anyone our father? Mary

What does all these words have to do with Acts 22:1???? o_O Can you try again? Please? mary

Well, it is not only I who thought he was talking about being baptized. It was Justin Martyr, Irenaeus and Tertullian to name a few who thought the same thing. Even your best friend Martin Luther disagrees with you. Are you suggesting your interpretation of Scripture more valid than the ECF's...

I don't understand what you mean :(

Ummmm.....are we not talking about the verse I mentioned in post #2? I'm confused? You want more verses?

Thank you for making my point and backing up what I stated by quoting the Didache: ....pour water on the head three times.... (not immersion) Finally we agree on something enoch :rolleyes: Love, Mary

Just because you are right in what you say it doesn't make you right in HOW you say it.

Of course I don't believe you. I don't fall for false teachings. I didn't' reference water birth. Please don't twist my words like you twist scripture. I referenced the words of Jesus when he was talking about baptism (being born of water and Spirit). Who is your teacher? Why are you...

I don't and my Church recommends immersion. Do you have something against people that are physically unable to being immersed getting baptized? As I stated before, of which you failed to address, we KNOW thru early Christian writings, specifically the Diache (70-80AD), which was written...

Hi CI. So when Paul addressed the Jews as "brothers and Fathers" he was talking to fellow Christians (brothers) but who were the "fathers" he was referring to? In your opinion, what or who is a spiritual father? What is their role? Mary

Hi. Are you Phil Medley or Bert Berns? (get it ;)) Nope. Didn't miss anything. I clearly said "when Jesus went into the water to be baptized he was only baptized with the Holy Spirit" and that statement was clearly making jest of your theory that only the Spirit was involved. If you didn't...

Oh goodness Bol. If you would have just left out sentence "b." I wouldn't have cringed when I read this. It was unnecessary. :( This is a good example of why @GodsGrace is troubled by HOW (choice of words) you say things. Just because you are right in what you say it doesn't make you right in...

Hi GG, Nearly half the uses of "father" in the Acts of the Apostles appear in Stephen's speech in chapter 7. He refers to the ancestors as fathers and once he addresses his audience as "brothers and fathers." Paul addressed a crowd of Jews in the Temple as "brothers and fathers" (Acts 22:1)...

Dear friend, Yup...when Jesus went into the water to be baptized he was only baptized with the Holy Spirit. That is EXACTLY what Scripture says o_O You got that from your TWISTING of Scripture. You didn't get it from God for if you did get it from God as you THINK you did then you are calling...

According to your theory...... which is opposite of 2,000 years of Christian teachings and belief. Sooooo entertain me. What is the water that Jesus is speaking of in John 3:5? Curious Mary