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No, I am trying to find out why you are so mad.. I do not see this from you

show me where physical death is the atonement for sin. You realise Jesus died spiritually on the cross BEFORE he gave up the goast do you not?

again, show me another view..

prove me wrong, if physical death is the wage of sin. No one will go to hell. because whoever dies physically has paid for his own sin debt.

I am focusing on Gods word. I am asking you a question as a friend..

physical death is a result of sin. it is not the punishment of sin. the wage of sin is death, the gift of God is eternal life. death is the opposite of life..

thats not the death spoken of here. That is why we must be born again. because we are dead in tresspasses and sins Born of the spirit. spiritual birth, or spiritual life, as compared to spiritual death

why are you being this way? Is it because you said something to another member and someone said you were incorrect? Is it pride?

no I did not dismiss it all all the fact you can not tell me what death they died just shows me that I must be right again, I am open, show me what death they died.. I am open.

physically yes. but he did not die physically. nor were we born dead physically

did he walk with God. did he know God? why did he think he was naked. Why did he blame God for his sin why did he try to hid from God. All these things show the things of God became foolish or hard to understand for him.

show me otherwise show me something that makes more sense

Nope I took the whole of the scripture to see what God says concerning this death. And came up with what most people in the church believe and call it. we are seperated from God spiritually (hence the name)

Amen again, we can tell by the way Adam acted. and how he forgot spiritual things he should have known just hours before. that he died.. it is that death which is passed down

I am standing on Gods word.

Good day sis.. This saddens me that you are not open to what is being said that most churches teach about the kind of death we died in ADAM.

I am saying what the bible says spiritual death by definition is separation from God. That is what happened to adam the moment he died.; That seperation (death) had to be restored.l it is called being born again or born from above. thats what Jesus said must be done to all of us who are dead...

He said adam died. according to you we can have have no idea what God meant. (we know it was not physical death, thats all) and you have no answer as to what type of death it is.. so .... I am sorry

I have, as well as have another member. If you do not want to see it. I am not going to argue about it..

well until you tell me what type of death they died. then i will have to stick with what I have been taught. He does not have to say the word spiritual for us to know that is what type of death they died.. You have been shown in the NT, where everyone died when adam died.. what type of...