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Looky here April, we are not naming names...we are discussing sins in general. As is an appropriate discussion among Christians. Any one that tells you that lifestyles sins are something that you can get forgiveness for and keep on sinning, is expecting to play Christ for a fool. The founder...

This is a point that needs to be cleared up. The unpardonable sin we can discuss and it is one that can send you to hell, according to Christ. Where do you think Judas is going? How about Hitler? Homosexuality is a sin that can definitely be forgiven. But the assassin cannot get forgiveness...

Well, the depth of your love is a personal thing. And what comfort you is a personal thing. And you may have...found out the hard way, that sometimes it is not just the depth of your love that keeps a marriage together. Either way, it not the paper, or the vows, or the priest that keep you...

Whatever you do...do not look up the official definition of "Babes"

WOW! From the mouths of Babes.

LOL You do not want to couple that up with the history of the Catholic Church. Christ was a High Priest of the Order of Melchizedek...think you can find one of them? Which church authority are you going to stand on?

Sorry Randy...didn't mean to step on your toes. all good.

So @April_Rose Lets approach this from another angle. we have talked about this on a few threads, but no one steps up to the plate and explains why we should have weddings. Why if we are in love, why is it that we should have a wedding? If someone asks us if they should have a wedding, what are...

Oh...You mean the Catholic priest? LOL Here is it...no biblical requirement for a wedding. The protestants were the first to require a wedding and that was in the mid 1500's The Catholics followed suit but still the Protestants were the first. If it is a denominational requirement...then it...

This is not my reasoning. LOL This is the Bible. Find a scripture that requires a wedding...but do not hold your breath until you find one. The difference between a one night stand and a marriage is that you form a monogamous relationship. And yes if you have sex with seven women you are whore...

Not defensive. Just trying to keep things straight. I misunderstood your statements on common law marriages. Without vows is just sex...is another thing. Speaking of the normal course...two people in love...want to have and to hold...from this day forward...marriage is a matter of the heart...a...

No no no I got your point...the topic itself.

Just no. All the people in the Bible did not go to hell because they were married without a wedding. There is no way of not having sex outside of marriage. Sex joins the couple in marriage. Weddings are a wonderful custom and celebration...but it is not Biblical.

Rape victims...people that have one night stands...The marriage is about coupling up and staying together.

If sex forms a union then why do they burn in hell when they don't get married before having sex? This whole conversation is wrong...fornication is a post biblical concoction. God did not make a process for going to hell. Unless you are whore mongering or doing Pagan rituals there is no sin...

Yes and Yahweh explains how. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This was how marriages were formed in the biblical era.

Well first of there is common law marriages... But then again, you are pointing out all the reason for a weddings, of which I agree. As long as you don't say that vows and weddings are required by the Bible. Or that the wedding is what consummates the marriage, because that would mean that no...

I am not sure what you are getting at. Marriage is a good thing. Two thumbs up!!! The question is; What do you do to get married? What forms a marriage. The answer is the sexual union, as God defined. That is how people formed marriages in the Bible....and even today....weddings are a wonderful...

Sorry that my post lead your thread a different direction. Lets go down your path. The title of the thread is "The birthing is the key" and I agree. You said...in the scriptures, how in 'the world' can God have children. The world claims (some in the world) that we are all the children of God...

You are right He did... And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? This is how God said to form a marriage. Again, no biblical requirement for wedding ceremony, anywhere in the Bible. The Catholic Church made...