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  1. Marymog

    Books Outside the Bible

    Hello. Now I see where you got your translation from: Disciplinary Decrees of the General Councils by H.J. Schroeder. You are right. That is how Schroeder translated that sentence from LATIN to English. A better translation would read expel from the lands (territories) and when one puts Canon...
  2. Marymog

    Has anyone here ever read this document?

    No, I haven't. I only repeat what The Church teaches. And as scripture says: The Church is the pillar and foundation of Truth. Have you ever considered that you might be one of the false teachers? I find it fascinating that after you read Ephesians 5:11 and 1Timothy 5:20 that you didn't have a...
  3. Marymog

    Has anyone here ever read this document?

    Thank you Stumpmaster. I am going to go out on a limb here and suggest that the billions of Christians that attend denominational churches don't appreciate your suggestion that we are not "genuine Bible-believers" and that our faith DOES'NT stand on the Word of God. That, IMO, is very...
  4. Marymog

    Has anyone here ever read this document?

    HI qt, You are the one who said "It is obvious to those who know, those who watch and see." If it is so "obvious", as your theory suggest, then I assumed you would have the courage to point out the deceivers, false teachers and those who introduce false doctrines that are amongst your fellow...
  5. Marymog

    Has anyone here ever read this document?

    Got it.....Just as I thought....You are unable to back up your statement. Thank you for your time. Mary
  6. Marymog

    Books Outside the Bible

    The major Protestant denominations disagree on how one obtains salvation, however, they were guided by the same Holy Spirit. How do we rectify this difference that effects our salvation? Mary
  7. Marymog

    Books Outside the Bible

    It would help if we could define "basic Bible doctrine" so that we are on the same page. In your book, what are the basics? I think that all Christians have to believe in and follow the Truth put forth in scripture. I am a Bible believing Christian also. Since there is no "table of contents"...
  8. Marymog

    Books Outside the Bible

    Here is a link to the Lateran IV Constitution. Can you show me in there where they call for the "extermination of heretics"? I can't find it. Lateran 4 - 1215 I don't understand your question. Could you rephrase it? Curious Mary
  9. Marymog

    Books Outside the Bible

    Well, he did listen to 'his' church magisterium.....He listened to himself. He was his own magisterium. Do you agree with what Calvin did in Geneva and too the people that disagreed with him? Curious Mary
  10. Marymog

    Books Outside the Bible

    Got it.......You depend on the Holy Spirit to guide you into all truth. So did Luther. So did Calvin. So did Zwingili and all the men of the Catholic and Methodist and Presbyterian etc. etc. Churches. WHY are all your truths different if you all have the same Holy Spirit guiding you? You made...
  11. Marymog

    Has anyone here ever read this document?

    Let me try this again because I don't see an answer to my question: When you disagree with someone is that not saying they are wrong? A simple yes or no will do :) Mary
  12. Marymog

    Has anyone here ever read this document?

    Yes, that makes sense. You say you want to have a conversation but I can't see were you are answering my legitimate questions. I ask those questions so I can get a baseline of how our conversation should go while showing each other respect. You KNOW that I am going to use scripture, Catholic...
  13. Marymog

    Has anyone here ever read this document?

    In post #123 you peacefully and respectfully disagreed with me. When you disagree with someone is that not saying they are wrong? Mary
  14. Marymog

    Has anyone here ever read this document?

    I never said you were attacking. I was pointing out how your theory is wrong. ;) I respect your opinions....I just don't agree with them. you didn't answer my questions: YOU decide if it is necessary??? How is the end result of me defending The Church not good? Mary edited
  15. Marymog

    Books Outside the Bible

    You depend on yourself but I can't I depend on 2,000 years of men greater than you or I. The Apostolic and ECF??? Your interpretation DOESN"T include doctrines that clearly contradict the Bible??? Your interpretation is Biblical, not man made??? Are you being serious right now? Can you answer...
  16. Marymog

    Has anyone here ever read this document?

    YOU decide if it is necessary??? Well, I felt it was necessary to defend The Church and her methodology. Scripture tells me to defend the Church: 2 Thessalonians 2:15, 2 Timothy 2:24-25 Colossians 4:5-6 Titus 1:9 2 Corinthians 10:5 2 Timothy 4 1 Peter 3:15 How is the end result of me...
  17. Marymog

    Books Outside the Bible

    Who are "those" that you speak of? Did the Holy Spirit guide the men who decided on the 73 and not guide those that decided on the 66? Or vice a versa? Mary
  18. Marymog

    Books Outside the Bible

    You have me so confused. :( I hope I can articulate my thoughts more clearly so I can understand what you are saying. Please bare with me: You said that you disagreed with one of the main points of Calvinism. True or not True? As we well know, Calvin came to those "main points" by reading and...
  19. Marymog

    Books Outside the Bible

    So you are adding the words "Catholic Church" to that line: "come out of the Catholic Church my people". Why is it ok to be a Protestant, where one can believe whatever they want on any given day and church shop for the church that agrees with what they believe, but it is not ok to agree with...
  20. Marymog

    Has anyone here ever read this document?

    I don't know what that means. I will gladly defend my Christian faith. Why wouldn't you? Perhaps you mean you don't want any part of defending denominational doctrines? Mary