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it will become the abyss

Just as the loss of humanity through Adam was in the bag so now the salvation of humanity through Jesus is in the bag.

Yes, the abyss is the Earth which will be a ruin from the elements being out of control...an out of control to which they are heading right now ie, earthquakes, volcano's, floods, fires etc... with no humans. It is also the prison which Satan is bound in.....bound in a chain of circumstances ie...

You lost me AJ with your statement that Jesus had returned in 1914. This does not resonate with my understanding of the scriptures.

any translation sbg....I have a variety to refer to. I guess you are trying to reconcile some Old Testament descriptions. The book of Revelation however gives a perspective which I think clarifies OT descriptions keeping in mind that the the OT prophets who wrote saw through a glass darkly.

I did't think you would understand the metaphor....not to say that you couldn't.

I have no information on its origin. Following these scenarios through, I see is a preparation of the inhabitants of the planet for 'the great solution' which most will embrace. What that 'solution' is, will be an authoritarianism akin to the dark ages in the sense that 'worship' will be...

this is how I see it sbg, I don't think it's complicated. When Jesus returns in the clouds on his rescue mission from the deterioration and oppression the world is running full steam ahead to, he will come to pick up his people from all ages, he will take us back to where he is as described in 1...

save sinners?...does that mean all qualify or are some exempt from the classification?

does the father require a sacrifice? ....and in this context, what does sacrifice mean?

good on you Pearl, good on you.

yeah....'they' have a premonition how it will end from man's perspective. They could be right. When Jesus returns on his rescue mission in the clouds for all to see, won't his rejecters call for the rocks and mountains to fall on them. Isn't this call nothing less than the desire for mass...

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The dark ages are a lesson for everyone. I guess many aspects will be replicated.

you mean you're still up to rocknroll?

you think that's shocking.....I'll be eighty in ten!

out of interest, 'priest' is synonymous with teacher

those who are emotionally connected to Jesus have his spirt; they are his and he is theirs.

hmmmm, I didn't know males could have babies