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With respect however, do we need to tell God what to do? do we need to advise him? If Jesus is Lord, who is the servant? Does the servant tell the Lord or the Lord tell the servant? Are we the Lord or are we the servant? What is the role of the servant?

read the texts with healthy eyes. Who is it that makes war? who is it that says the lamb is wrathful? How does the lamb overcome the war mongers? How did the son of God destroy the works of the devil?....read it again.

Do lambs have wrath?....hmmm, that's a strange coupling don't you think?....Oh, you mean the people are saying the lamb has wrath. They must have a very distorted image of a lamb because I've never seen a lamb with wrath and besides, people say all sorts of disconnected stuff....or is it that...

let me see, hmmm I'm pretty sure Jesus had nothing to say about choirs and tithing and if you are at all curious, getting familiar with the scriptures is helpful for clarity. If you're interested there are links at the bottom of this post. There is of course the other option.....don't bother to...

Oh well Enoch, when you get to heaven you'll be able to put in a word for us mistaken folk that just haven't been able to see that life after death as you understand it is well explained. The assertion that it is an important matter in almost every culture as you say (as if that is meant to...

You mustn't have read the manual on self sabotage. The first chapter declares it a very lonely road and only to be undertaken by those who think they are right :)

Why do People Pray for the Dead? I suppose it's because they can't pray for themselves. Strange isn't it? If they've gone to heaven you think they'd be putting in a good word for us while we continue to drop bombs on each other and they don't need praying for anyway and if they've gone to hell...

You are arguing intent and the limitation of words and in the process missing the point. You have fixated on a text and stretch it every which way without understanding the heart of God....the fruit of which is judgement of others.

read back over your posts objectively.

Thank you for your answer 1CL however, in spite of all the words you haven't answered the question directly....instead, you have wandered around. Perhaps go back to the question. :)

and so you give and example of how you morph the conversation to keep the confusion rolling.

I see your rational as wanting. There can be no security other than that falsely driven by ego if one has the view some are chosen and others not contrary to what Paul tells us half a dozen time in Romans 5. Do you lie to people when sharing the good news of Salvation if God has not chosen...

what has that got to do with the communication between you and me?

have you stopped sinning 1CL?

daggers coming out again??

The choices of people do not qualify for God's choice.

Quenching is done when solutions are sought in areas God has not revealed. Everything needed for our peace and internal security is provided in the scriptures and it is the role of the Spirit to bring these things to our awareness and joy.

the word 'world' or the expression 'in Adam' as Paul uses it it Romans 5:14-21 means all humanity. This qualifies as Good News for all people just as the angels sang on Bethlehem's Hills. Luke 2:10

If God so loved the World he considers them friends because you don't give your life for those you don't care about.

The human race is a brotherhood....all in Adam, all in Christ. From God's perspective there is a unity; he sees his erring creatures redeemed yet not all want to see it as God see's it. It is preferred by many to have those which are in and those which are out. They trust the judgement of their...