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  1. Eternally Grateful

    Re Spirit baptism

    We can hope. He needs to be more open though.. Even to the fact he may be wrong. otherwise.. well you know
  2. Eternally Grateful

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Yes they will, at a future date. but we are talking about the hebrews spoken to by the author.. You brought it up
  3. Eternally Grateful

    Re Spirit baptism

    we could say the same about you This is not a valid argument
  4. Eternally Grateful

    Re Spirit baptism

    So Jesus did not preach the gospel?? wow
  5. Eternally Grateful

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Was all of Israel saved? even those who crucified christ and died in unbelief?
  6. Eternally Grateful

    Re Spirit baptism

    We can see the same in John 32 And John bore witness, saying, “I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and He remained upon Him. 33 I did not know Him, but He who sent me to baptize with water said to me, ‘Upon whom you see the Spirit descending, and remaining on Him, this is He...
  7. Eternally Grateful

    Re Spirit baptism

    No Your taking the glory from the work of God and giving it to the work of man. I was baptized by the baptism made without hands. You got wet.. once of is is redeemed, I fear the other is not
  8. Eternally Grateful

    Re Spirit baptism

    why was Jesus baptized? and what happened
  9. Eternally Grateful

    Re Spirit baptism

    yes.. Jesus was trying to explain what he meant when he said we must be born again ie, there are two births, the physical birth, and the spiritual birth. the spiritual birth is what is meant by being born again..
  10. Eternally Grateful

    Re Spirit baptism

    My friend, Baptism in water is just as much a work as being circumcised in the OT was.. they both represent cleaning. We are cleaned by God not by man. Again, in john 3, where jesus said we are born again and given eternal life. show me the word baptism.. in fact do the same in John 4 (living...
  11. Eternally Grateful

    Re Spirit baptism

    Read john 3 tell me where jesus said we have to be baptized to be born again
  12. Eternally Grateful

    Re Spirit baptism

    No you have not, You have shown me your opinion Acts 2 does not say what you think it says, this has been explained to you Yes, and it is done by the baptism of the spirit upon the time the person repents and recieved the spirit.. they get water baptized AFTER they do this Then we are saved...
  13. Eternally Grateful

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Same chapter you posted 39 But we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul. 1 John 2: 6 Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him. You need to learn the difference between Gods people. and those...
  14. Eternally Grateful

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    The truth is this Unless you are born again, you will not see the kingdom of God. You can try to get into it your own way, or you can be brought into it Gods way.
  15. Eternally Grateful

    Re Spirit baptism

    What is there to see I was BAPTIZED (An action word which means to be placed into, or immersed) CHRIST. there is no water involved. I hope to get you to see that people have taken a greek verb and twisted its meaning into some religious meaning that was not tyhe intent of the word used...
  16. Eternally Grateful

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    How are we reconciled No one is righteous before God, apart from reconciliation. they ago together. they are not seperate No one who is born of God practices sin, so that it why they are not righteous.
  17. Eternally Grateful

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    You forget God came to our place to visit us He then died for us He then went to sit by the right hand of the father, and sent the holy spirit, again to our place to visit us. Now the kingdom of God is spiritual in nature But we do not get to it by being good. or professing to have some...
  18. Eternally Grateful

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    the zion you speak of is not the Zion of the word.
  19. Eternally Grateful

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Alot of what Episkopos says is things we have never heard of before. Behold is making a mormon connection I have also never seen before.. I am not sure that is where EPI got it or what.. what we have to look at is his words..