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  1. Sabertooth

    Where does the Bible say?

    The RCC doesn't have a copyright on the 66 books that we agree on. That is a non-starter. And that agreement doesn't obligate me to further recognize even more doctrines that are outside of their scope.
  2. Sabertooth

    Where does the Bible say?

    Do you realize that this line of Socratic reasoning/argument is departing from the OP (which I already answered)? Do any of the seven books in question speak to Mary's alleged Perpetual Virginity or Immaculate Conception?
  3. Sabertooth

    Where does the Bible say?

    Rejecting those books absolutely meant that the Catholic traditions were re-evaluated. The RCC did not author the books that remain.
  4. Sabertooth

    Where does the Bible say?

    I am unsure where I stand on Sola Scriptura, because I do not have a precise definition for it. Where Scripture is clear (like Original Sin), I reject all conflicting doctrines. Where it is unclear (like Trinity & Free-will vs. Predestination), I hold that they are somehow true, but beyond my...
  5. Sabertooth

    Must Christians obey government

    Yes, to the extent that it doesn't interfere with our general obedience before God, directly. For example, seat belt & [motorcycle] helmet laws do not interfere with our faithful service before God. The laws in the USA allow people to do some inappropriate things, but I can think of no instance...
  6. Sabertooth

    Why is the bible so murky and confusing?

    You have to get the Decoder Ring, too...! Jesus said, "And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you...
  7. Sabertooth

    A Funny Thing Happened in Church.

    That is not too different from a "spoonerism." (W.A. Spooner was a minister, too. ;))
  8. Sabertooth

    Where does the Bible say?

    I believe that the Bible is correct in the framework it presents. We can speculate on the stuff it doesn't speak to, but such speculation cannot be considered canon, nor can we shoehorn in extra-Biblical concepts that aren't even hinted at in our Bibles. Perpetual Virginity and [her] Immaculate...
  9. Sabertooth

    Where does the Bible say?

    I find no basis to elevate any tradition above what the Bible does or does not say (which, incidentally, is the topic of this thread).
  10. Sabertooth

    Where does the Bible say?

    Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar.
  11. Sabertooth

    Where does the Bible say?

    It wasn't so much "dealt with" as it was disregarded. The linguistic gymnastics for that argument are still very improbable. Would such an argument be reasonable for any other woman and her husband in history? If nothing else, Matthew 13:55 shows that Joseph was still living with Mary when...
  12. Sabertooth

    Where does the Bible say?

    It has only an improbable window for objection. (And the burden of proof would be on the improbable.) "Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit." Matthew 1:18 NKJV The...
  13. Sabertooth

    Where does the Bible say?

    What do I win if I show you such a Scripture...?
  14. Sabertooth

    People who don't believe in Jesus are going to Hell, correct?

    Jesus said, “If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is...
  15. Sabertooth

    People who don't believe in Jesus are going to Hell, correct?

    You mischaracterize Jesus and His Judgment. He loves mass murderers* just as much as He loves "nice" people (and we are all equally guilty before Him, without His intervention). He would much rather redeem than condemn, but condemnation is the only option that is left for those who would reject...
  16. Sabertooth

    People who don't believe in Jesus are going to Hell, correct?

    You identify as agnostic. You have no basis to advance rules of theodynamics* when you refuse to even recognize its underlying God. You are grasping at straws. Christians do not pronounce judgment. We are here to pitch Amnesty, but you have to acknowledge the impending Judgment in order to...
  17. Sabertooth

    People who don't believe in Jesus are going to Hell, correct?

    The concept certainly is. Getting Saved and living Saved require on-going, God-driven changes to our frame of reference. For the dissatisfied unbeliever, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot [even] see the kingdom of God.” --Jesus, John 3:3 NKJV For the committed...
  18. Sabertooth

    People who don't believe in Jesus are going to Hell, correct?

    You are asking a question for which the answer is outside of your paradigm.
  19. Sabertooth

    People who don't believe in Jesus are going to Hell, correct?

    No. People who won't let Jesus save them from Hell are going to Hell. (Believing on/in Him is just a bit of a precursor.) Know God
  20. Sabertooth

    Jokes, fun and comedy

    (At least, he was transparent about his intentions...!)