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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    14 IRRESOLVABLE CONTRADICTIONS WHICH RESULT FROM A LITERAL RICH MAN AND LAZARUS

    I have a problem with you saying that I claimed that Jesus lied, which I never did. You are lying by saying that. So, I will assume then that you think the virgins in the Matthew 25:1-13 refer to 10 actual people and that the fishermen in Matthew 13:47-50 refer to actual people and so on. No...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Amillennialism is an obsolete and outdated eschatological fabrication.

    Agree. Paul said that Gentiles are fellow heirs of God's promises with the Jews (Ephesians 3:1-6), but dispensationalists do not accept that. because of their bias against Gentiles. Also, the lack of respect that Paul gets from Premills is just unbelievable to me. They reject so much of what he...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Why do you ask your own question instead of answering his question? You didn't address what he said about how you should be praying that your flight is not in winter or on the Sabbath. Since you believe Matthew 24:20 is talking about a future global event that you might be involved in, shouldn't...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Good point. None of these people who think that applies to the future even bother obeying what Jesus said to do by praying that their flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Do you also think that God commands only the elect to repent? Acts 17:30 In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. 31 For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Yes, so just completely ignore the fact that Luke 21 exists then and don't bother taking that into account at all. You did a great job of cherry picking scripture here. Beyond that, it appears that you believe that Daniel 12:2 will occur at the second coming of Christ, which I would agree with...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    I disagree with that idea. I believe that once you start allowing for things like this then you can make scripture say whatever you want it to say.
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    14 IRRESOLVABLE CONTRADICTIONS WHICH RESULT FROM A LITERAL RICH MAN AND LAZARUS

    What in the world is wrong with you? You agree that "made up stories can illustrate the truth" and that is what I'm saying Jesus did. Yet, you still disagree with me! How do you explain that? You come across as if you believe that the parables Jesus told were all true stories that really...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Is the Judgment Seat of Christ separate from the Great White Throne Judgment?

    Do you see an earlier judgment for believers described in Matthew 13:36-43, Matthew 13:47-50 or Matthew 25:31-46? I sure don't. Each of those has both believers and unbelievers being judged at the same time.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Is the Judgment Seat of Christ separate from the Great White Throne Judgment?

    Do you require that all details regarding an event have to be included in any passage which refers to that event? Or do you allow that one passage about that event can contain details about it the another passage does not and vice versa? Do you acknowledge that this verse will be fulfilled when...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Is the Judgment Seat of Christ separate from the Great White Throne Judgment?

    Exactly! I just made a similar point in my latest post before I read this. That person clearly interprets scripture with doctrinal bias which leads him to take scripture out of context. Great point. Agree. I made this same point as well. Glad to see that we're on the same page on this. How can...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Is the Judgment Seat of Christ separate from the Great White Throne Judgment?

    No, I don't see that at all. What I see here is extreme doctrinal bias. Do you just completely disregard this verse? John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: What Jesus was saying in John 12:49 is NOT that He was not speaking of Himself as the...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Is the Judgment Seat of Christ separate from the Great White Throne Judgment?

    No, it does not. The following passage teaches that both believers and unbelievers will stand before the judgment seat of Christ. Romans 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11 For it is...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Amillennialism is an obsolete and outdated eschatological fabrication.

    The key thing you said there is "as understood in the prophet's day". Do you understand that further revelation came after that? Or do you think the New Testament doesn't provide any further insight to anything? Do you think that what Paul wrote in Romans 9:6-8 was already made clear in the OT...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Amillennialism is an obsolete and outdated eschatological fabrication.

    Agree, except we should clarify that the kingdom of God was only taken from unbelieving Jews like the Pharisees and scribes that Jesus ranted against (see Matthew 23) and not from believing Jews who remained in the kingdom. The believing Jews were the elect remnant that Paul wrote about in...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Amillennialism is an obsolete and outdated eschatological fabrication.

    It's one thing to disagree about these things, but it's another thing to lie about those you disagree with like you Premills do so often, including here. We Amills do NOT believe that God does not keep His promises to Israel. We just have a different understanding of His promises to Israel than...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The resurection at the time of great tribulation

    Wrong. My interpretation prevents those verses from contradicting each other. Yours doesn't. How would you like it if I told you that you want to interpret verses 4 and 5 as if verse 6 didn't exist? Is that a productive thing to say in this discussion? I think the fact of the matter is that we...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The Coming Rapture

    That in itself is cause for celebration because that at least gives us a chance to have a productive discussion, which is impossible when neither person understands the other or even if just one person doesn't understand the other. Agree. Thought I might as well interject here right away and...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The Coming Rapture

    No, I don't. Only in your mind. It does not say that the entire bride is in heaven. You are adding that to the text. What about believers on the earth? They are obviously part of the bride as well. Anyone who believes in Christ is obviously part of His bride because anyone who believes in Him...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The Coming Rapture

    Why did Paul only write about one of them then (1 Thess 4:14-17)? Do you think he was somehow not aware of the other one? It seems like many here don't think Paul knew what he was talking about or didn't have all the information or something, but I couldn't disagree more with that.