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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    Doh yourself! It's talking about spiritually having part in Christ's resurrection, which is the first resurrection. That is what is required to avoid the second death, not a bodily resurrection. You're not even taking that into consideration because of your doctrinal bias. The first...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    No, John 5:28-29 has to do with the bodily resurrection of the dead that will occur in the future, including the saved and the lost. What you're talking about relates to John 5:24-25, not John 5:28-29. Those passages are not about the same thing.
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    Right. I never said otherwise. And it has no power over the souls of the dead in Christ now as well. So, Revelation 20:6 should be interpreted accordingly. It's not a bodily resurrection of the dead that is necessary in order for the second death to have no power over us. It's faith in Christ...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The term being born again vs. the term resurrection.

    Nothing, of course. Not sure why some people have so much trouble differentiating between the body and the soul/spirit.
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The term being born again vs. the term resurrection.

    Sure, but that doesn't change the fact that no one here claims that being born again of the Holy Spirit replaces the future resurrection of the body at the last day as you falsely claimed.
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    It does matter that you often misrepresent Amil. It makes it almost impossible to have a reasonable and productive discussion with you. You wouldnt say it doesn't matter if I frequently misrepresented Premil. You can't test a theory that you don't even understand. Yes, I agree that the rapture...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    That's figurative speech for telling them to wait patiently for Him to avenge their blood. He's not telling them to literally rest as if they are there in heaven just sleeping all the time. LOL. Unbelievable. How do I get someone who is carnal like you to understand spiritual things? It probably...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    You know how I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt and tend to assume they are just ignorant instead of being purposely deceptive (unless it's obvious), but he has seen our posts for many years now. How can he not understand amil by now? You are most likely right that it's deliberate...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    Our view is being misrepresented by premils over and over again. Their dishonesty is disgusting. Surely, they know what we believe by now, but they misrepresent it, anyway. It shows they have no confidence in their own view when they have to constantly resort to misrepresenting ours.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    I'm trying to get you to address Revelation 6 because you obviously interpret Revelation 20 the way you do because of your belief in soul sleep. If soul sleep was true, then how do you explain Revelation 6:9-11? When you say the souls are under (it says under the altar), what does the mean...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    Congratulations on proving that you don't understand Amil once again. For maybe the thousandth time. All you premils are able to do is misrepresent Amil. You can't argue against something you don't even understand. The souls of the dead in Christ come with Jesus when He comes and then the...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    LOL. We were talking about both. Are you trying to get out of telling me where the souls John saw in Revelation 6:9-11 are located? Your false doctrine of soul sleep has led you to believe all kinds of things that are false.
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    Your talk gibberish. Are you denying that the context of Ephesians 2:4-6 is being saved by grace or are you saying being saved by grace is being saved physically instead of spiritually?
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    LOL. More empty words from you, which is all you have to offer, as usual. Nice job of misrepresenting my view, liar. And I know you did it purposely because I've told you what I believe many times. You know I am not saying that kingdom is already here in its fullness, but you still lie and say...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    It's comical that you think think this is an answer to my post. You didn't specifically address anything I said, which is typical of you. You can't be taken seriously.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The term being born again vs. the term resurrection.

    Again, please look at the verses that precede 1 Corinthians 15:50-54 to see the context of what Paul says is being changed there at the time when the last trumpet sounds and the dead are resurrected. 1 Corinthians 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    Same old nonsense from you. Not interested in having the same old tired argument with you. Ephesians 2:4-6 is clearly talking about spiritual salvation and going from being spiritually dead in sins to spiritually alive in Christ. If you can't even discern that, then you clearly need to ask God...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    Why are you trying to avoid the question? Seems like you are trying to hide something. Where are these "souls of them that were slain for the word of God" located? Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    It's not talking about them coming to life bodily, it's talking about their souls living and reigning with Christ in heaven. How interesting that you previously were quoting the translation that says "they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years" and now you're switching translations...