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they can;t get out of Gods way they have a belief, but they have no faith. Like Israel. who believede in God. but their faith was in their works. so when Christ came to get them to repent of their dead works. they crucified him.

He WILL RULE them with a rod of Iron It does not say he will destroy them with a Rod of Iron. It means he will enforce his laws. and destroy evil.

15 Now out of His mouth goes a [g]sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He shall rule them, does not sound like he is going to destroy them.. Nope. see above Your interpretation of your bible is in error. If we interpret...

Well if prophecy says they will be re0instated, and it does. then I would take God at his word. There can not be an abomination of desolation in Dan 9 if there is no temple and no sacrifices..

who said it was about the church? and who said it was about completing the kingdom? Where is this shown?

1 sin is what scripture days Adam commited 1 sin and he died (spiritually) James says a person can keep the whole law and STUMBLE in just one part and he is guilty of the whole law.. what is the penalty? Death. I suggest you stop excusing your own sin, and stop judging other people who sin...

no it is not. It says he will rule the nations with a rod of Iron.. not destroy them then throw your bible out. it is in error Animal sacrifice has NEVER tsaken away sin. iot has ALWAYS been symbolic (you need to study Hebrews) It was used as a teaching tool. to lead people to christ. so...

nice side step. My comments were about animal sacrifices which are future. even so. zech 14 is a future event. God is not punishing people for failing to Go to Jerusalem to worship him.. as he is not there

the red dragon represents satan, it is stated in the passage what could 1000 years represent?

He is not ruling with a rod of Iron now He is not ruling in jerusalem now Nations are not being punished because they fail to go worship him in jerusalem once a year.

I am looking at prophesy that states they will do it. They have not recieved christ at that time. so to them it would be in sin. because they are still trying to get to God through law. not grace through Christ.

do we believe Israel in sin will start animal sacrifice? Not only do I believe it. They have everything in place to do it now. in fact. I think I saw where some priests are at this moment practicing it.

why would it be symbolic. of what?

Then you answered your own question did you not? How many sins does it cause one to be lost?

whats crazy is they claim they do not teach works :confused:

Are you saying we can be sinless?

This is confusing. What sin did Jesus commit that he died, and hence needed to be born again?

1. John 3: 3 tells us what must be done to us, we must be born again 2. John 3: 5 jesus speaks of two births water and spirit 3. John 3: 10 - 18 John tells Nicodemus and us how to be born again. 10 Jesus answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Israel, and do not know these things...

Jesus had to be born again??

He gave himself credit for it.. He is the one that spent to have it created