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You do as Paul, you buffet yourself

I believe He punishes me as a son now. When I was a child I took a beating almost every day from a father that was doing it for his pleasure. Gods love corrects for my good. The way He accomplishes it is through conviction, because I want to be found pleasing to Him. The earthly father, I hated...

The one that said read it yourself.

I’m no where near a secular judge, but if I were and everyone that came before me if I told them I’m a loving judge there’s no punishment for your evil deeds, am I just in doing this, how will the victims view me?

Ok, does Gods righteousness require there to be a punishment for evil deeds, How can He be just if He condones evil.

He was not overcome, He orchestrated the whole thing. I’m of the opinion it’s His greatest accomplishment.

I somewhat see what you are saying, but we have to also consider Paul baring the marks of Christ. I don’t believe we are vilifying God to say He punished Christ in our stead.

I feel that if I say that in the hands of evil men Christ was crucified, then I take the Glory intended only for God in Him accomplishing the putting off of the flesh. Then I can not say He overcame.

Also Jesus says this is my body broken for you. This is the Glory of God to overcome the flesh.

He asks me to do the same that Christ did. ( no infuses on the flesh ) i still believe your hung up on the flesh.

I believe you may be putting way to much infuses on what’s created. Romans 7:24 KJV [24] O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? Christ in my opinion was willing and ready, inspired by the Spirit that walked in Him, to put off His tent for you, for me for...

I believe John baptized with water and Jesus baptizes with fire.

He was gathering sticks, possibly to kindle a fire.

I have to believe that when Noah exited the ark there was a new heaven and a new earth (all things had been made new) This is very interesting to me.

So how do you believe we save our (house) today?

What was Noah’s message, work or get in the boat?

Why couldn’t they have just got on the ark with Noah and his family? Do you believe Noah was trying to recruit workers, or was he saying get on the boat. You’ll be safe?

When he exited the boat do you believe it was like all things had been made new?

It doesn’t, but it’s obvious to me. I’d rather give God the glory.