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That's discipleship., not Salvation. Salvation, is when you go to the Cross as a sinner and Jesus becomes your sin bearer and your Savior. You dont work for that, as that is "the Gift of Salvation" without works or water.

Yes. Paul says that this type of Christian is "fallen from Grace".. "in the Flesh".. and "Bewitched"..... = A Legalist.

The Law and Moses Commandments, are from the Old Covenant. The Born again CHRISTian, is not under the old Covenant, as they are under a new one. The New Covenant, says. "Christ is the end of the law for righteousness, to/for, everyone who Believes".

Self righteousness, is trying to make self right with God by deeds and wrong faith. A self righteous person will say.... "God, im keeping this and doing that and so, there is my performance, ... now take me to heaven". God says... "I'll only save you based on what my Son Jesus did for you on...

the word "righteousness" there, does not mean "self righteousness". Self Righteousness would be....>"if i do this, and if i do that.... if i keep the law and commandments, if i get in the water tank.......if i go to church a lot, if i Tithe, if i spend a lot of time on Forums".. See all that...

If you've never read or heard that you must keep commandments and do righteousness to be or STAY saved, then you are very new to both Christianity and to Forums.

when you live in the mind of Christ you wont be studying 1 John 1:9 trying to understand why you are : "sin, confess, repeat" for 40+ yrs. Believe it.

He didn't. He gave them His Commandments. Go and find out what those are, m3nor4h

All of the "religious but lost", believe they are to keep this and do that, to try to end up in heaven, they hope. Most of the born again, are trying to do the same, while they pretend they trust in Christ. Paul says in (Galatians) they are "fallen from Grace" and "in the Flesh". This is the...

The Law and 10 Commandments ENDS right here. "Christ is the END of the Law for RIGHTEOUSNESS.... to Everyone who Believes" "Christ has REDEEMED the born again from the CURSE... of... THE LAW"... So, one day, its possible you will understand some of this, 1stCenturyLady. Anything is possible.

Moses Law, and the 10 commandments, were given into this depraved world so that humanity could understand how depraved is the world's depravity. The Law and Commandments are Holy. tho not as Holy as God or Christ. They are Holy rules, and that is not the same as God's literal righteousness that...

What you said is not true. Ive not said that... i simply said that keeping commandments, and doing works, have nothing to do with being BORN AGAIN. See, Being born again, is not related to commandments or law. Generally the disconnect in understanding, is that many believers dont understand...

tCenturyLady said: "if sanctification is not the name of the life process we go through, what is? then she said.... 1stCenturyLady said: ." So I do NOT teach that sanctification is a process and never have,

All that is left is the new man. The born again Christian is the "new creation in Christ'. That's it. That is what God sees. We have to see it the same way or we are not in the renewed mind. Paul told you that the old man is crucified with Christ. "crucified" = dead. This is why He told you...

1stCenturyLady said: "if sanctification is not the name of the life process we go through, what is?

The 10 Commandments are not given to get you into heaven., nor can Jesus's commandments. See the Cross of Christ for that revelation, as the way to go to heaven. John 14:6

Here are more of those "Grace not works" Crowd, Gottservant. 1.) The Law came by Moses, but GRACE and Truth came by Jesus Christ. 2.) Paul's Gospel is the "Gospel of the GRACE of God"

as of Today.. "all have sinned" You dont have to believe it, but 1 John 1:9 mentions you. You might want to check it out.

Written in Stones. ask Moses.

Depends on the source material. also, the bible is the word of God. You are not required to believe this is speech. np.