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Well given teh acidic way you treat people here, I will move on! As you said it is YOUR proposed teaching, not what teh word of God says so I shall leave it at that!

Wrong! Jesus did not condemn the death penalty here. He did not even say that it was wrong to stone her. He just said the only one without sin throw the first stone. He chose NOT to enact the proper penalty as the Law God gave to Israel called for!

I think you need to read your old testament! He had faithful Jews killing other Jews for crimes! Jesus never in the NT forbade the death penalty! and sorry but government- no matter how wicked is simply a tool in god's hand. Romans 13 King James Version 13 Let every soul be subject unto the...

So according to you, You feel the need to edit the word of God. For the verse in Hebrews is He will never leave you or forsake you, and John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. but you feel God left out Jeremiah 31:31-34...

Wow you need some healing from bitterness. It has corrrupted your soul! Jesus never once called the saved former pigs and dogs and weeds and wolves. We are lost sheep, wheat, elect, foreknown and predestined. the bible has shown that there are weeds in the field of wheat on earth. they were...

So according to you, You feel the need to edit the word of God. For the verse in Hebrews is He will never leave you or forsake you, and John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. but you feel god forgot to add "as long as you...

You truly must be an amazing mind reader! To write such an absolute statement about tens of millions of believers whom you have never metr amkes you either the greatest human mind reader, or the biggest blow hard humanity has ever seen! Presumptuousness is still a sinin case you forgot because...

WoW! Don't go into mind reading! You suck at it. Your arrogant think you can know me attitude notwithstanding, I just found your position a muddle of thoughts without much coherence. No attack, no rejection, just couldn't figure out the point of your "thinking". YOu are very rude and...

Well if you stopped cherry picking and ripping verses out of context, it will stop! YOur error is that you call epignosis=salvation and it simply doesn't. It means an intimate knowledge that can mean salvation , but here it doesn't, it just means a fill knowledge. Just like the Jews in...

Well you are the cherry picker! If you kept that verse in its context instead of ripping it out of context and wrongly trying to make it stand alone you would not sound like a brand new person to any Christian sect. Matthew 7:21-23 King James Version 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord...

7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? 8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? 9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in...

You are approaching this whole argument as a baby brand new Christian. If you knew doctrine you know that God will not allow anyone who wishes to be saved to be lost! He knows past present and future- that is why he foreordained and predestined the elect! And you indict God of doing teh same...

Well as that pertains to Israel alone, I agree, as Hebrews does not pertain to Israel alone- you are wrong! And even His abandonment of the nation is not an eternal abandonment. Paul made that unambiguously clear!

then you reject the bible for your own interpretation.

I suggest nothing, I simply opost the Scriptures as written! YOur proposed teaching (key YOURS) is a mish mosh of literal acceptance and allegorical interpretations and confusing definitions that seem to lead to crazed endings. I am not sure I can understand this well.

And yet Gods Word says: 28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. 29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many...

Deut. is abouit teh Lord going before Israel in battle and that was written as a condition! Hebrews 13 is not conditional.

Yep and God even blesses the unjust with the just! Just like Jesus said!

But as you can't lose what is kept in heaven, reserved for you, that is a nonsensical belief!

Yes it is, but if I fall into a pit of unbelief for a season, though I will experience condemnation, guilt and deep negative emotions because of the consequences of that sin, I am still eternally secure and know that even though I can be a real idiot, my savior cannot and will not abandon me...