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I understand it the same way @keithr does; one (Christian) faith with many denominations.

Another Ad Homenim. There is nothing confusing about Jesus saying not all who call me Lord, Lord will be saved.

Again, if you are correct, it means universalism is correct doctrine. The flaw in the "gift" argument to support OSAS is that it denies one may not accept the give (or more precisely, rescind their previous accceptance of the gift).

What Scripture verse says that?

The OSAS is a Circular Reasoning doctrine. You assert it as being true and write things like above, ignoring the not being saved implication of the verse. Burning a branch is THE EXACT OPPOSITE of saving it, of being saved. More than that is OSAS ignores the many compilation of verses that go...

No one really knows what you are saying! I'm trying to help you communicate so people can understand it. I'm only offended at your lack of humility. No thesis. Just bash people and proclaim yourself a prophet. I'll show you by way of comparison. I have thought about starting a thread on...

Obstinate. No taking the plank out of your eye eh? I won't even comment on the humility to compare yourself to prophets. Wow! Think this only applies to others, huh? "Do as I say not as I do" is not an effective strategy at persuading people.

Definitely deserves its own thread! At least PM me the details. God told you the Anti-Christ is here in 1986? Wow!

Well said. The part in red is beyond what Scripture says though. Indeed, it goes against Scripture. Another verse that comes to mind is the parable of the seeds as well as Jesus telling us to reconcile with our brother before coming to the alter. It means the sin with your brother comes between...

A false claim, unnecessarily but adamently defended. I watched a video comparing the differences in the Gospel accounts to detectives getting eye witness accounts of an accident or crime. That there are minor discrepancies makes their testimony more believable. If they all told the exact same...

Ad Homenim. You’re obstinate and have nothing to say about Jesus not saving unflavored salt or branches that don’t produce fruit. Real faith involves action. Faith does not include the action of ongoing sinning as the verses cited testifies. I look forward to your thoughtful rejoinder.

No weaseling. Demons believe this. Everything that exists is finite. Everything. Your failure is legion. Just what do you suppose believing means? Do you suppose the gates of heaven will be breached by mere lip service? I referenced Jesus ALSO saying unflavored salt is thrown away and branches...

Wrong. I referenced numerous verses. Just use the one to juxtapose against the foolish manmade OSAS doctrine.

I already explained. 1Cor15:1-4 has nothing to do with the point and I expressed this already. Being saved is not the proper perspective of OSAS. 1Cor15:1-4 only applies to those who hold fast to God’s grace because it does not address those who chose to sin after. Otherwise, Hebrews 10:26...

I never knew it was Introduced by Judy Garland. I got Bing connected to the song.

I don't know about most threads but some posters write with ambiquity as an apparent objective.

Typical ScottA, frame a thesis in the negative so no one knows what the positive assertion is. Anyone see a pattern of what follows? @ScottA, do you see the pattern? Do your pride yourself in not being understood? Even when one finally has a clue of what you are talking about, the...

Agreed. I believe Scripture over man-made doctrine. Not sure what motivates people to violate Mark 7:13, going beyond the word but there we have it.

Projecting. The sin with impunity crowd is gravely misunderstanding. Nonsense. The verse does not qualify sinning to ONLY the sin of disbelief. Implied in your response is that God is unable to communicate effectively to us; when he writes ‘sinning’ he actually meant only the sin of disbelief...

I don’t know.