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  1. Wrangler

    Does John 1:1 say Jesus is God

    God is Spirit, yes. But Jesus is a man. Why do you think Jesus called himself the Son of Man? Which goes to show how horribly weak your argument is. God is a spirit and Jesus is a man who died and was resurrected by God (Rom 10:9). Jesus is not God. At least, not the only true God.
  2. Wrangler

    Does John 1:1 say Jesus is God

    B has nothing to do with your reasoning. The Son of God is a title (which is why it is capitalized), not a biological kinship.
  3. Wrangler

    Does John 1:1 say Jesus is God

    So, in your estimation, Adam was a deity? Guess what? All of us have God as our conceptual Father. That's why we call him Father. Why else do you think we call Jesus' God, Father, our Father?
  4. Wrangler

    Does John 1:1 say Jesus is God

    Agreed. But all God's Anointed had a role. The definite article tells the story of the uniqueness of Jesus. He was THE one Moses told us about, THE CHRIST, THE anointed one who would deliver us from our sins.
  5. Wrangler

    Does John 1:1 say Jesus is God

    There you go again! Appealing to mystical dualism AS IF there were any other part of Jesus existence besides being a man, like me and you.
  6. Wrangler

    Does John 1:1 say Jesus is God

    I showed how you are denying Col 1:18. It'd be nice if you could comment on that before accusing me of denying things. And for the record, I am not denying anything in the Bible. I just don't accept you reading your doctrine onto unitarian text as the proper way to interpret what the unitarian...
  7. Wrangler

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    Indeed. I’m not too big on prophecy & revelation in Scripture as it’s too symbolic to be practical for my tastes. However, my general impression is when the Jews start to embrace Jesus as their Messiah, it is a major milestone predicting the return of Christ. Recently I learned that there are...
  8. Wrangler

    Does John 1:1 say Jesus is God

    All the Gospels were writtent to testify that Jesus was the Son of God. 1. Matthew 1:18. Now the birth of Jesus the Messiah[a] took place in this way. 2. Mark 1:1 This is the Good News about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God. 3. Luke 3:21 One day when the crowds were being baptized, Jesus...
  9. Wrangler

    Does John 1:1 say Jesus is God

    I do believe in Christ. You deny this means Anointed by God. Jesus is a man Anointed by God. Jesus is the first fruit of a new creation. We share in his inheritance. As mortals we can be confident that we mortals, will be resurrected into a glorified, immortal body - as Jesus was. I think...
  10. Wrangler

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    The Scriptures do not contain the trinity - not the word and not the doctrine. If you begin with Scripture, you’ll be content to jettison the trinity as false doctrine. So, it’s very helpful. Given that you start with the doctrine of the trinity, you claim all of Scripture ‘supports’ it while...
  11. Wrangler

    Does John 1:1 say Jesus is God

    Jesus says there is only one true God - who is NOT Jesus. And you don’t take that as a denial of Jesus being a deity? PUL-EASE.
  12. Wrangler

    Does John 1:1 say Jesus is God

    I said I am a Biblical Christian. That’s how I consider myself a Christian. This means I do not accept doctrines that are not an explicit teaching in the Bible.
  13. Wrangler

    Do forums increase your faith?

    Aren’t you the one yesterday who rebuked me for relying on 1 verse for doctrinal foundation or was that GEN2? Anyway, I agree with you. A pastor, delving into Mathew, said all the Gospels are the Gospel of Christ. One is according to Matthew. One is according to Marc. The 3rd one is according...
  14. Wrangler

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    In short, the Jesus is the Jewish Messiah. The Jews are monotheists who reject the trinity to this day. Gentile followers of Christ became influenced by mysticism and Paganism as they migrated West from Jerusalem. One thing that surprised me about modern day Jews is the enmity they still hold...
  15. Wrangler

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    What would qualify as proof text? What set of words comprise a rejection criteria against this inherently contradictory doctrine of the trinity?
  16. Wrangler

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    You got that right!
  17. Wrangler

    Does John 1:1 say Jesus is God

    No sir. The only reason for Jesus to be baptized is for the contents to be poured into him.
  18. Wrangler

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    They have to think 100% opposite the Hebrew writers who wrote all of the Bible, every book except those perhaps by Luke, in order to justify their dogma.
  19. Wrangler

    what is your christian hobby

    @GEN2REV and @RLT63. Can you field this question?
  20. Wrangler

    Does John 1:1 say Jesus is God

    Yes, I do take the verse For us, there is one God, the Father. Pure Scripture as in depth doctrine all to itself - consistent with the Shema, 1C, 1 COR 11:3, and Jesus' own statements of his God is the only true God. And your claim is summarily rejected for it implies that God contradicts...