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No BB, I am not ignorant about this site. If you feel so strongly you would need to bring up ongoing evidence for you to justify your continued criticism. I would say you have imagined this and have a chip on your shoulder.

You are mistaken, Taken. The Hebrews were story tellers. Many stories were told to make a point. Some were true ie, historical, other stories were known myths. Our use of language today does similar. The language used in certain situations is not intended to be understood literally. Here is an...

'utopia which is appearing'....maybe you could give us some details?

This is an aside BB.....the Hebrews never pronounced God's name in case they took it in vain. They abbreviated his name to YHWH leaving out the vowels. Adoni was often used and in time the vowels of YHWH have been forgotten....nobody knows what they are. You can ask any religious Jew to verify...

I don't see anybody railing at JW's

I'm sorry David H, you must have mistaken me for someone else.....that, or you are out of your depth and don't really understand what you are saying.

I would be interested for you to make the connection between the righteousness of God (because that is what is under attack) and a chip.....Please don't drop the ball even if it is a challenge....nay, particularly because it is a challenge.

not just sometimes.....mostly if not always!

the connection has still not been made

even here you are pointing the finger and through implication, exonerating yourself.

yeah, yeah, I hear what you're saying but tell me what the connection is between the righteousness of God and a chip. I mean, if one is going to be given a hard time because one doesn't have a chip I'd be easy enough to get a chip and so by pass the harassment?... God is not against chips is he?

When you resist from pointing the finger at the 'flaws' of others .....how wrong they are and how right you are.....when you start taking responsibility for yourself, perhaps your audience might respond better.

Isn't it the righteousness of God that is under attack through Satans minions? ....as it has been throughout all of history? Where or how does a chip determine anything regarding that?

and what will the determination determine?

Where is the mocking?...... Where is the taking of any side you mentioned?..... Has imagination projected onto another?

Perhaps the tribulation will come about as the result of attempting to implement laws which will highlight those whom it will be claimed are a hinderance to unity? ...or perhaps better said, those that resist because those laws conflict with God's?

Don't allow the the rest of my quote #9 to be glossed over or unnoticed :)

Now thats a pretty water tight argument Josho.....particularly the term 'It's for your own safety'. Consider how laws yet to be implemented will draw on this to get the approval of the masses....'its for your own safety'.....and so the net is cast.

With respect but I see this a smoke screen. The term 'saints' is unequivocally God's people. Straining at gnats and swallowing camels is a practice to guard against if one desires clarity.

what do you think they are testing the water for, kcnalp?