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  1. Davy

    tribulation and suffering part 1

    I haven't been discussing my opinion of others. If someone makes an unusual and vague statement, I'm going to call them out for it. That is not a slander, nor derision, nor expressing an opinion. It's about trying to grasp what the heck someone says actually means. Now if you don't like that...
  2. Davy

    tribulation and suffering part 1

    None of that means anything without God firstly giving one understanding by The Holy Spirit. I don't care if you've got the highest I.Q. in the world, seen more historical events with your own eyes than anyone else, and are the highest level Biblical scholar in the world. If your spirit is not...
  3. Davy

    tribulation and suffering part 1

    Not derision, I'm simply surprised by that question of whether Jesus is Israel or visa versa. Where did you come up with that idea? That definitely is a vague statement, it doesn't make sense either. What you said there would change and deny what Apostle Paul clearly said in Ephesians 2 to...
  4. Davy

    Rapture 2020: the First Resurrection

    Actually, what you've said doesn't follow the Scriptures. In John 5:28-29 Jesus showed that on the day of His return, both the "resurrection of life" and the "resurrection of damnation" will happen, as ALL in the graves will hear His voice and come forth. Those mentioned at the start of Rev.20...
  5. Davy

    tribulation and suffering part 1

    Huh?? That idea doesn't make sense, whether or not Jesus is Israel. Brother, you actually show that you don't really know what the meaning of the name 'Israel' is about. That's the new name God gave to Jacob, remember? It literally means those who overcome with God's help. That name represents...
  6. Davy

    Understanding the Olivet Discourse

    Yet you have NOT proven your position. Luke 21:20 -- the great tribulation timing for the end. Antichrist's armies surrounding Jerusalem, the last siege of Jerusalem that is prophesied in Daniel 11:31; Zechariah 14:2; Zephaniah 3:8; Joel 3:2; Revelation 16:14-16. The "desolation" that is coming...
  7. Davy

    What The Great Tribulation Really Is

    That's just baloney. The Daniel 9 Scripture isn't that difficult to understand. Those who try to make it difficult, like you and your textual critic friends, only show vain attempts to try and change what it reveals. And it reveals exactly what I said, of which there have been many Bible...
  8. Davy

    What The Great Tribulation Really Is

    You are missing that the 6th Seal has 2 parts. Your just noting that "great earthquake" phrase has you jumping immediately to the day of the Lord with God's cup of wrath. The 6th Trumpet shows the tribulation period, as does the 6th Vial also. So where's the tribulation period in the Seals, for...
  9. Davy

    Understanding the Olivet Discourse

    What you said above is not difficult to realize your position, and that it's wrong. The events of Christ's Olivet discourse was not fulfilled in any "age-long dispersion of the Jewish People". That is where you easily show you are stuck on a doctrine of men, because the Signs Jesus gave in His...
  10. Davy

    Understanding the Olivet Discourse

    Oh, you mean you just discovered NOT ALL the early Church fathers just dumped Christ's Olivet discourse to be only for 70 A.D.? You're just now discovering that, like in those quotes I showed? You need to get real and quit claiming that others pick n' choose when that's exactly what you have...
  11. Davy

    What The Great Tribulation Really Is

    You don't understand it because you're thinking with your flesh. God's consuming fire on the last day of this world will not destroy the whole planet. It is merely going to wipe clean man's works from the surface of this earth (see also end of Hebrews 12). We are given a quite graphic hint of it...
  12. Davy

    tribulation and suffering part 1

    Then compare Romans 9:23-26 with Hosea 2, especially the last Hosea 2 verse where Apostle Paul quoted that from in Romans 9. The Hosea Scripture was God speaking through His prophet Hosea to the ten northern tribes who had rebelled against Him. It wasn't written to Gentiles. However, Paul...
  13. Davy

    What The Great Tribulation Really Is

    I already showed how many of the early Church fathers saw the signs in Matt.24 linked with the subject of the coming Antichrist that Apostle Paul covered in 2 Thess.2. It's mainly the 2 Thess.2 signs that most all of them agreed was still future to their day.
  14. Davy

    Understanding the Olivet Discourse

    More in the royal we sense. Then that shows your argument has no basis. But when you mock at the start, it's difficult for me to want to continue reading. But that's simply not true. You haven't provided all... the available samples of the early Church fathers. And the ones you picked were...
  15. Davy

    tribulation and suffering part 1

    It doesn't genealogically, but it definitely does spiritually. Gal 3:26-29 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is...
  16. Davy

    The Second Coming of Christ is for JUDGMENT

    You mean Daniel's symbolic "one week" begins with the 7 year covenant of Dan.9:27. That's the first 1260 day period of the "one week". The "abomination of desolation" idol is setup after that first 1260 day period, and that is when the Antichrist will demand all to worship it, which is what the...
  17. Davy

    tribulation and suffering part 1

    Why does God show those separately from the Gentiles? It's because of His Promises to Israel, that should be easy. Just because Christ's Church today is made up of both believing Israelite and believing Gentile does not dissolve God's Promises to chosen Israel. Nor does it mean believing...
  18. Davy

    The Second Coming of Christ is for JUDGMENT

    You haven't shown anything. You just keep throwing out 'supposed' proofs. There is NO SCRIPTURE written in God's Word that proves a Pre-trib Rapture of the Church. And that "imminent" idea, the early Pre-tribulationalists got from Jesus' Olivet discourse! They used where He said no man knows...
  19. Davy

    Understanding the Olivet Discourse

    Well, when you start throwing out falsehoods towards me that have NOTHING to do with my coverage of Bible Scripture, like in your above post #174, then that is... POINTING YOUR FINGER. I am not... the "elected leader of all here"! I simply KEEP TO GOD'S WORD AS WRITTEN! But no matter, God's...
  20. Davy

    The Second Coming of Christ is for JUDGMENT

    I really don't see it that way, because I focus on the 'events', and not the numbers of the Seals, Trumpets, and Vials. On the 6th Seal, it has two parts. The latter part is about the day of Christ's 2nd coming, which is when He gathers His Church also, and He is revealed to the wicked coming...